muehlema Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hi Recently I have been trying to build some objects around the airports. AA gun emplacement with surrounded sand bags or checkpoints at the road. Unfortunately I am not able to place and align the sandbags properly around the AA unit. Any tips on how to make it look nicely? X-Plane 11.5x / DCS 2.5.6 / P3Dv5 / Aerofly FS 2 / War Thunder Win10-x64 | ASUS Z390 Maximus VI | Intel i7-9700K @3.6GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | 2TB M2 PCI 4x | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muehlema Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 How? X-Plane 11.5x / DCS 2.5.6 / P3Dv5 / Aerofly FS 2 / War Thunder Win10-x64 | ASUS Z390 Maximus VI | Intel i7-9700K @3.6GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | 2TB M2 PCI 4x | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just trial and error, I'm afraid. But you can use the ME ruler for some rough guidelines still. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifofum Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 After a little practice you'll develop a sense of how large objects are and where they sit relative to each other based on the icons. There has been talk of a 3D preview function in the mission editor but it has not yet been implemented. Until such time as it is, just play with it until you get it. :) Once you have groups of units set in a way you like, you can save a template for future use. THE GEORGIAN WAR - OFFICIAL F-15C DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Combat Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 There's a piece of software that allows you to move objects in game when it's running. I don't know that it works on 2.5. I believe it's called witchcraft... Nvidia RTX3080 (HP Reverb), AMD 3800x Asus Prime X570P, 64GB G-Skill RipJaw 3600 Saitek X-65F and Fanatec Club-Sport Pedals (Using VJoy and Gremlin to remap Throttle and Clutch into a Rudder axis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifofum Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Witchcraft was for testing .lua in a live mission environment; since it is currently not possible to have 2 instances of 2.5 the other solution is likely not an option at this time. Here is the thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=149769 THE GEORGIAN WAR - OFFICIAL F-15C DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJockel Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 since it is currently not possible to have 2 instances of 2.5 the other solution is likely not an option at this time. It is possible by putting a file called dcs_variant.txt in it. In the file you just put a number and done. However, to use witchcraft this way you would need need the asset pack 2 times, as you need multiple accounts to run it dcs that way. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikiBzh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Open your MissionEditor.lua with notepad++, then delete the two -- before test_topdown_view_models = true, and you are good to go. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philstyle Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Open your MissionEditor.lua with notepad++, then delete the two -- before test_topdown_view_models = true, and you are good to go. Simple. Yup, this is the solution. On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/philstylenz Storm of War WW2 server website: https://stormofwar.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 8< AA gun emplacement with surrounded sand bags ... 8< What sandbags are you using? When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvii-Dietrich Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Open your MissionEditor.lua with notepad++, then delete the two -- before test_topdown_view_models = true, and you are good to go. This is the best solution. It mostly works. There are 1-2 things where it doesn't handle the rotation correctly, but nearly everything is rended in 2D, so you can get an idea of size and orientation. VERY USEFUL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Yup, a handy option. Helps greatly in mission design. Spiffy to the max IMO :thumbup: The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I think most of the issue with this, are issues with the objects themselves, which is what ever pointer or hotspot or whatever determines what the facing direction is, often has nothing to do with what is logically the player would expect the facing direction ought to be. EG the Bofors, when you set their facing direction (even without the 2D on map graphics), for example to 90° (due east), in mission when you look at the unit, it's gun barrel is pointing at 270°(due west). When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philstyle Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 EG the Bofors, when you set their facing direction (even without the 2D on map graphics), for example to 90° (due east), in mission when you look at the unit, it's gun barrel is pointing at 270°(due west). All trailered/ pulled units are like this. Think of the towing-connector as the "front" of the unit, rather than the muzzle of the gun being the front. On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/philstylenz Storm of War WW2 server website: https://stormofwar.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Since you cannot limber these guns, if they are on the map, they will be operational. So if the player is putting one on the map, he's interested in which direction the barrel is pointing. There are other objects which are illogical as well. The NTTR revetment for example. IMHO logically the side which should point toward the enemy should be the orientation; but the side open for aircraft to taxi in to it, could also be considered to be a logical choice, but off to the side between these two?!?! :doh: But at least with the 2D view you can see which way it is pointing. But with the Bofors, at least I cannot l tell which is front or back for looking at the 2D view. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 The gun can travers 360 degrees, so using the barrel for facing is not logical at all. Hence the towing eye being the front I suspect? The revetments - well OK, you got me there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Yes, they can, but when the gun has no targets at which to aim, the barrel returns to its ready position, which is the direction it points per default. It is only logical the player has this as its reference. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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