microhelis.de simulation controllers review and discussion

Great to hear from ya Yogi. Glad I waited.

Excellent news Bad! What do you think of them so far?

I have to figure out the mounting of the cyclic base. I assume you have to give those roll axis springs some compression but I am not sure how much. I couldn't find a drill template on yogi's website.

It also means the have t rebuild my current pit which is gonna take me offline BSD for some time this summer.

Yogi is developing a mounting system. I know you already have a pit but it's something to consider.

sorry bad.

I have to figure out the mounting of the cyclic base. I assume you have to give those roll axis springs some compression but I am not sure how much. I couldn't find a drill template on yogi's website.

here is the drill template, next days I add an template in the shop too. (edit: done :music_whistling:)

Cyclic-mount1.pdf

If someone will use the printed PDF to lay it directly to the floor, please print it without any resizing on a DIN A4 sheet of paper.

The springs ....

Before I changed to my FTR prototype I used the springs with a middle compression. They will not center absolutely even with the max compression. Around the center position the forces cancel each approximately. As we learned in the FTR thread there are no centering forces in a hydraulic system without trim-function, so the springs should be removed.:music_whistling:

Hi,

I changed the 2 files above with additional measuring in inch.

Awesome. Thanks Yogi. :thumbup:

Hi,

does it help?

Hi,

 

does it help?

Yogi, could you add anchoring points for the dampers to the diagram, or a footprint of the mount so we can determine if there is adequate space under sim floor.

Hi Chic,

the anchoring points depends on the floor thickness.:music_whistling:

The damper have to be halfway in the center position.

What is maximum length and width?

Hi,

 

does it help?

Well, it doesn't show where I should fix the roll axis dampers but you said they need to be compressed half way, so I'll will use the good old empirical way to drill the holes for those parts.

Hi Bad,

for my EC-120 simpit I used an additional plate from 6mm aluminum.

For this I could make a round hole in my floor an use 6 M5 screws for the 2 clamps.

I can send you an UH specific clamp

Bad, normal installation is to fix the ends of the dampers so they are at mid travel with the stick centered.

Hi Trip,

:music_whistling:

That is what I tried to say, but I think now it could be misunderstood.:cry:

I try to design a template for the drilling position for different floor thickness.

Bad, normal installation is to fix the ends of the dampers so they are at mid travel with the stick centered.

Got that. But can you give me a ballpark figure on the dimensions so I can determine if will fit in in the floor of my sim. 3/4 inch deck.

BTW. Great to see Yogi back in the game.

Got that. But can you give me a ballpark figure on the dimensions so I can determine if will fit in in the floor of my sim. 3/4 inch deck.

I mounted mine closer to the stick base to intentionally decrease travel so my stick wouldn't hit my main console or my other... delicate components. =P

This simply due to the physical space available in my replica pit.

Hi,

perhaps this pictures help a little more.

[ATTACH]164857[/ATTACH]

these measurements are for mounting under the floor.

the black dimension are in "mm" the red in "inch".

All dimensions are taken from the theoretical center of the cyclic.

I try to add a floor clamp for mounting in a single hole. The damper socket will be fastened direct to the bottom part of the clamp.

I have to make it the same way for my FTR system, because I need a specified position for it.:music_whistling:

BTW: are the "inch" measurements readable in this form or should they be in decimal too?:helpsmilie:

Hi,

 

perhaps this pictures help a little more.

[ATTACH]164857[/ATTACH]

these measurements are for mounting under the floor.

the black dimension are in "mm" the red in "inch".

All dimensions are taken from the theoretical center of the cyclic.

 

I try to add a floor clamp for mounting in a single hole. The damper socket will be fastened direct to the bottom part of the clamp.

I have to make it the same way for my FTR system, because I need a specified position for it.:music_whistling:

 

BTW: are the "inch" measurements readable in this form or should they be in decimal too?:helpsmilie:

PERFECT!

Inch measurements are best in fractions, most Americans don't have memorized the decimals that correspond to 1/16" increments as seen on measuring tape.

Hi

here is the reason, why it makes differences for the mounting:

left side is similar the version I use for my pit.

The socket for pitch-axis is mount on the upper edge of the floor.

The sockets for the damper are mount under the floor.

The circle describes the point for the damper traveled half way.

In my pit they were not connected with the clamp, this would be a possible mount kit for the UH version.

with these clamps you only need a single, but big, hole in the floor. All fasteners uses the clamps.

On the other way I can make a template or even an aluminum plate for screw the whole unit under the floor.

Hi,

here is a template (PDF)

Cyclic-base-template.pdf

for the under floor mount.:music_whistling:

Hi,

here is the design for a "special" mount.:music_whistling:

:pilotfly:

Hi,

 

here is the design for a "special" mount.:music_whistling:

[ATTACH]165056[/ATTACH]

 

:pilotfly:

That will work out fine. Thank you.

:music_whistling:

I changed my mind.....

So the stick-tube has 30mm more length.

And I think the sticktube and the enclosure can be covered with a stick leather boot.:pilotfly: