Mars Exulte Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 India uses/used MiG-27s extensively. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halowraith1 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 OverStratos' forum avatar has changed, it's too small to tell, but I'm wondering if it's in DCS or a real Flogger? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester986 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Nice catch. I seem to remember it used to be a Mig-19 when he was working on that :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 India uses/used MiG-27s extensively. Yeah but thats it IIRC. Not like a mig29 or 23 with a billion users. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Oh yeah, certainly limited in comparison. But considering it's basically a slightly faster Frogfoot sans the armor and usable gun I kinda understand why. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Oh yeah, certainly limited in comparison. But considering it's basically a slightly faster Frogfoot sans the armor and usable gun I kinda understand why. 27 has the same armor bathtub as the frogfoot. And its like a supersonic 25T, not 25A. Because T never really existed in the airforce, 27 gives us a historically legitimate TV platform. As for feasibility, I wonder why nobody says that in terms of avionics 23MLA opens the gate to 25PD :smilewink: ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 The -25PD would be epic, I could so get behind that. Also it was exported pretty widely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I can't see why the MiG-25 or MiG-31 are so popular in demands, as they are pure interceptors, not fighters and not at all for anything in ground. Like we do not have the map sizes or the targets even for those, like U-2 flying at very high altitude or SR-71 trying to penetrate area.... i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Yeah, the 23MLA is a perfect stepping stone to 25PD. PDS with Beryoza would be killer:) I’m always surprised that developing the ML’s N-003 worked out so well for them Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I can't see why the MiG-25 or MiG-31 are so popular in demands This sounded like a wife talking out her husband out of buying a muscle car. Seriously, MiG-25 had the longest stick among red birds of its time. Keeping the blue side busy from afar giving the 21's a chance to bite. Anyway 23 MLA is an excellent choice from any viewpoint. ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojyrocks Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 This sounded like a wife talking out her husband out of buying a muscle car. Seriously, MiG-25 had the longest stick among red birds of its time. Keeping the blue side busy from afar giving the 21's a chance to bite. Anyway 23 MLA is an excellent choice from any viewpoint. Both Mig 25 and 31 are in popular demand... But surrounding the secrecy on both these planes. I highly doubt we'll see a full fledged module. The least they could give is an updated 3D model. So...waiting for the Mig 23MLA...was hoping for an MLD...guess cant ask much, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 This sounded like a wife talking out her husband out of buying a muscle car. Seriously, MiG-25 had the longest stick among red birds of its time. Keeping the blue side busy from afar giving the 21's a chance to bite. Anyway 23 MLA is an excellent choice from any viewpoint. How to keep them busy, when they can just notch and chaff like nothing, and fly around the area waiting the 21's to come closer, while not a threat 25 would be useless at the range? If you want to get close, you get close by notching and chaffing. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) Oh yeah, certainly limited in comparison. But considering it's basically a slightly faster Frogfoot sans the armor and usable gun I kinda understand why. Given the roles, a more apt comparison would be the Su-22 (export variant of Su-17) which was widely exported already, plus the MiG-27 was more expensive, I guess. Edited November 13, 2019 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I can't see why the MiG-25 or MiG-31 are so popular in demands, as they are pure interceptors, not fighters and not at all for anything in ground. Like we do not have the map sizes or the targets even for those, like U-2 flying at very high altitude or SR-71 trying to penetrate area.... The MiG-25 is a pretty iconic bird, I guess. Might as well ask yourself why people go completely bananas over the F-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardo_c Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I also don't get why so much request for the 25 or 31. The 31 will never, in this DCS incarnation, be there, we all know why. As for the 25, are you really interested in an interceptor that cannot pull more than 2.5g on a full load? Yes it does mach 2.8 and shoots those big acrid missiles...but at who? You will not get an teen fighter series with those and not even a hog. All you could do would be to create missions to intercept B-52s. After two runs you will get back to any other module. A 23 would be much more interesting for the scenarios I prefer which are from the 70s to the 90s. (SARH missiles) Or a Su-17, now that would be fun. My DCS Campaigns - DOWNLOAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 The mig-25 did plenty of air to air combat during the Iran-Iraq war and Desert Storm. It has plenty of a2a kills against F5s, F4s, supposedly Tomcats, and definitely one F18 to name a few. And no, I do not care I can't pull more than 4g in it. I care about flying unique and challenging aircraft, and the Mig25 certainly qualifies for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbite Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Does anyone have a Mig-23 MLA manual translated to english that I could read though? Really looking forward to a mig? I assume the MLA's could only load a few FAB's for A-G as they're mainly interceptors? Please visit this thread and add a plus 1 to show support for getting a full fidelity Su-17/20/22 in game https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220572 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhunter Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Does anyone have a Mig-23 MLA manual translated to english that I could read though? Really looking forward to a mig? I assume the MLA's could only load a few FAB's for A-G as they're mainly interceptors? And unguided rockets. No idea about the GROM though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) And unguided rockets. No idea about the GROM though. Х-23 A-G guided missiles with Delta guidance pod. Its like Х-66 GROM but you can steer the hit mark and missile with hat switch, a progress compared to MiG-21 boresight guidance. Edited November 14, 2019 by Кош ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void78 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) The mig-25 did plenty of air to air combat during the Iran-Iraq war and Desert Storm. It has plenty of a2a kills against F5s, F4s, supposedly Tomcats, and definitely one F18 to name a few. And no, I do not care I can't pull more than 4g in it. I care about flying unique and challenging aircraft, and the Mig25 certainly qualifies for that. Oh yeah...definitely.:thumbup: https://theaviationgeekclub.com/iraqi-mig-25-foxbat-pilot-explains-how-he-was-able-to-shoot-down-lt-cdr-speichers-f-a-18-hornet-the-first-night-of-operation-desert-storm/ Why would someone not want such an iconic bird is something that i will never get. Not to go of topic; does anyone have any idea when we can expect some concrete news about MIG 23s development? Edited November 14, 2019 by Void78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strelok2014 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) Here are the unique video of the MIG-25 MiG-25. Genetics of the Interceptor | review from EXPERT (have english subtitles) Returning to the topic.. Any news about MIG-23MLA ? Edited November 15, 2019 by strelok2014 Wish list: -> MiG-3, MiG-9, MiG-17F, MiG-21F-13, MiG-23MLD, MiG-27K, MiG-25PD, MiG-29K, MiG-31, Su-17M4, Su-24M, Su-27SM3, Su-30SM, Su-34, Su-35S, Yak-3, La-7 -> Me.262, F-4D/E Phantom II, F-100 Super Sabre, F-104 Starfighter, Mirage III, Mirage F1, Saab 35 Draken, Saab JAS 39 Gripen, IAI Kfir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cauldron Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Good links thanks; a MIG-25 module would be a sure buy for me. Hope it gets on the dev. road-map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dFlow Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 isn't it too classified still ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bies Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I also don't get why so much request for the 25 or 31. The 31 will never, in this DCS incarnation, be there, we all know why. As for the 25, are you really interested in an interceptor that cannot pull more than 2.5g on a full load? Yes it does mach 2.8 and shoots those big acrid missiles...but at who? You will not get an teen fighter series with those and not even a hog. All you could do would be to create missions to intercept B-52s. After two runs you will get back to any other module. Funny thing - i thought the same about MiG-25. After more PvP MP i have found out MiG-25PD would be very very dangerous due to it's speed and missiles, it's a brute force which is hard to counter. When there is a guy dashing on you more than Ma 2 at 50-60,000ft with big and powerfull SAHR/IR missiles there is not much you can do, it would be scarry. After all MiG-25s proved to be much more dangerous to F-15s in air combat than MiG-29s in Gulf Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenux Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Is the MiG23 MLA the next project for Razbam ? Or just rumours ??? I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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