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But, there is a lot of detail there

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Seconds before crash landing at new airfield. :)

 

 

Well you cant say the cause was Pilot Error, lol

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You're absolutely right. And it's not a huge map in comparison to Caucasus and Nevada.

 

Can you tell us how the Axis airfields will be handled? From my research there weren't many inside "Normandy proper" / those regions outlined on that map.

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Can you tell us how the Axis airfields will be handled? From my research there weren't many inside "Normandy proper" / those regions outlined on that map.

 

Indeed. Allies outnumbered Germans in airfields as in planes.

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Indeed. Allies outnumbered Germans in airfields as in planes.

 

The allied ALGs were just stepping stones and pushed inland quite quickly from what I understand...but most were built from scratch. (some were French airfields - The one at Cherbourg is an example of a re-used field) My question was just to inquire where the axis airfields would be placed. Are grass strips a possibility? That would be very fun to experience.


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Indeed. Allies outnumbered Germans in airfields as in planes.

 

May I suggest that the map supports allowing a mission designer to place a spawn point anywhere he chooses on the map. This way the German air strip sites are not limited to a few designated areas...this is really very important to a mission designer who thinks as I do, please understand the importance

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@ Sithspawn... ( #14 ), we do like that, we do want :)

 

 

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May I suggest that the map supports allowing a mission designer to place a spawn point anywhere he chooses on the map. This way the German air strip sites are not limited to a few designated areas...this is really very important to a mission designer who thinks as I do, please understand the importance

 

Could you please explain what do you want exactly? Spawn German planes airbourne at any point of the map?

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Could you please explain what do you want exactly? Spawn German planes airbourne at any point of the map?

 

I believe he means being able to have any open field to be set as an airbase, where planes can spawn on the ground.

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Could you please explain what do you want exactly? Spawn German planes airbourne at any point of the map?

 

 

First thank you for the reply!...and yes I did mean the ability to set any available field or farm, as a spawn point for mission starts, for takeoffs, and base design


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Good idea. We will think how to make this possible.

 

Perfect for grass campaign airfield !

a 109 or spit should be able to be "client cold start or hot start" anywhere on the map and not only on designated airfield.

need a bunch of wwII object decor too to allow mission makers to make it alive.

 

objects could be something like that (just for idea and exemple ;-)

 

 

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In old il2 1946 mission designers had the option of doing this. Sometimes they placed in addition an "invisible runway" object there, sometimes they put a "generic runway" object. The problem with these runways was that if the field wasn't entirely flat, there was a mismatch in the altitude and sometimes crashes occurred (plus it didn't look good). The ideal solution about this would be the ability to place a runway object, and at the same be able to flatten the map around the airbase.

 

But overall, it could be done without placing a runway most of the times, designers had to assign a "home base" in the field, with a radius of x meters, and reduce the friction properties of the grass/land within this radius so that aircraft could taxi/takeoff/land without problems. This option greatly enhanced the possibility of new missions, especially in maps where there was an airfield mismatch or distances were long.

 

If developers are interested in expanding on something like this, it would be a really great feature, because it would allow for mission designers to isolate parts of any map and place era-specific runways/airbases there. For example take Nevada :

1. Mission editor has objects like "1944 german/allied runway generic".

2. Mission designers creates airbases with these runways in a part of the map away from vegas.

3. Now the mission could look something like North Africa campaign for the players.

 

wishful thinking would be the option to remove existing airbases from a map altogether, thus allowing each map to fit to any period with appropriate handling by a mission designer. So, if you take the black sea map and remove all airbases, then it could work perfectly for a Kuban 1943 scenario. It wouldn't be that much out of place.

An additional feature that would make any map work in any time period would be additionally the ability to "cut out pieces of the map" for each mission. If the designer could designate a rectangular part of the map that would be flyable, he could move entirely to the desert and leave Vegas out for example. Adds much more to the immersion.


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May I suggest that the map supports allowing a mission designer to place a spawn point anywhere he chooses on the map. This way the German air strip sites are not limited to a few designated areas...this is really very important to a mission designer who thinks as I do, please understand the importance

 

I would hope as well that airfields are handled like they are now and can be set to either side. If we got the maximum amount of airfields available in an area, then this should be fine I think...

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At the very least it would be nice to have a simple operations building/tower that you could place like the current Heli FARP. If you were on the ground near it you could re-arm/refuel. Landing on the current terrain/grass is pretty manageable with some practice (at least in the Mustang)

 

But yes, that was my point of asking about grass runways :thumbup:

 

Along with that, is there any hope of seeing a wind sock anywhere in the future? For some reason it has eluded us thus far but seemed like a staple of any airbase with prop-driven aircraft. (Please don't suggest smoke stacks, we've used that band-aid for years)

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At the very least it would be nice to have a simple operations building/tower that you could place like the current Heli FARP. If you were on the ground near it you could re-arm/refuel. Landing on the current terrain/grass is pretty manageable with some practice (at least in the Mustang)

 

But yes, that was my point of asking about grass runways :thumbup:

 

Along with that, is there any hope of seeing a wind sock anywhere in the future? For some reason it has eluded us thus far but seemed like a staple of any airbase with prop-driven aircraft. (Please don't suggest smoke stacks, we've used that band-aid for years)

 

Well we have dirt runways on NTTR right now, just no way to spawn there right now. So they can make an area a runway right now, we just need the pieces to spawn there and of course the fuel and arming.

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Well we have dirt runways on NTTR right now, just no way to spawn there right now. So they can make an area a runway right now, we just need the pieces to spawn there and of course the fuel and arming.

 

Right, that's a good start.

 

As far as custom mission design goes, a simple airfield you could place on the map would be a huge addition. Something we've dreamed about for a long time. There are definitely complications with such a thing, as the guys above have pointed out, but a rudimentary grass airfield seems less complicated. How does the supply chain work for the Heli example that you can use in the current mission editor? I thought you could re-arm/re-fuel from that (in a Heli) which would be essentially the same function. Maybe I'm over-simplifying it?

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Right, that's a good start.

 

As far as custom mission design goes, a simple airfield you could place on the map would be a huge addition. Something we've dreamed about for a long time. There are definitely complications with such a thing, as the guys above have pointed out, but a rudimentary grass airfield seems less complicated. How does the supply chain work for the Heli example that you can use in the current mission editor? I thought you could re-arm/re-fuel from that (in a Heli) which would be essentially the same function. Maybe I'm over-simplifying it?

 

A WWII airfield FARP would need to be pretty big, and most areas are perfectly flat. I would be worried that there would be few places that you could use it. But I would love something like that.

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I would like to see a unit / vehicle that could be placed anywhere on the map by the mission designer and once your aircraft was stationary within a certain distance it would allow you to re-arm re-fuel, it would be the simplest way to have a make shift landing zone, no need for atc, just keep it really simple.

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I would like to see a unit / vehicle that could be placed anywhere on the map by the mission designer and once your aircraft was stationary within a certain distance it would allow you to re-arm re-fuel, it would be the simplest way to have a make shift landing zone, no need for atc, just keep it really simple.

 

Yeah, I believe this is feature requested for the NTTR map, a WWII equivalent would be nice as well.

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