balaton Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Hi Guys, Just courious: could a pilot with real MI-17 experience somehow describe the control forces on this heavy wonder? Is it heavy or rather a "fingertip" aircraft like the Bell Jet Ranger or AS350? Cheers , Tamas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 The controls are fully hydraulic so the pilot is shielded from real physical forces I'd guess. But I'm not a RL helo pilot so what do I know :) The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 As mentioned above, due to the hydraulics, the only control forces are those required to moved 12 feet of control tubes. So not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladinsky Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 You'll also have to account for the stick force gradient which looks to have fairly strong springs, relatively speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 You'll also have to account for the stick force gradient which looks to have fairly strong springs, relatively speaking. Yep those forces are shown clearly in the manuals, but I don't have them in front of me. And remember those are only there if you don't press the trimmer button. They might be in the flight controls powerpoint that I did, but I don't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladinsky Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 You wouldn't happen know where I could look for some actual numbers? I've been going through the Mi17 manual but it doesn't have much in terms of specifics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaton Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 Thank you captains, I know that is hydraulic, I read about artifical control load by springs, trim, etc. What I really asked is not engineering thing, just the subjective feeling of the controls by someone who has flown the Magnificient. Cheers, Tamas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Well it's going to be very subjective. What I think is "light" you may not think is so light. But I think it's very light as long as the trimmer is held in. I rest my arm on my leg and just make most movements with just my wrist. (EDIT: Just to be clear, I am talking about the real helicopter. Although I am not a rated helicopter pilot, I have many hours flying the Mi-8/17) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaton Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Thank you Alpha, that's what I wanted... and you are lucky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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