Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Since updating to 2.5.1 DCS will crash out just before getting to the Main menu. DCS.log stops at just before initialising DirectX (comparing against older logs I have), no crash dump is provided - the only information is the below. Problem Event Name: BEX64 Application Name: DCS.exe Application Version: 2.5.1.16543 Application Timestamp: 5adf71a0 Fault Module Name: StackHash_77b3 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Any Ideas? EDIT:- I've tried completly resetting the DCS config, by renaming all DCS folders in my C:\user profile, same result. Natedcs.zipDxDiag.txt Edited April 28, 2018 by Nate--IRL-- Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 Hi Nate if you can attach your full log do you get a metashader pop up window? Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 No, no metashader popup (I've been reading through the forum also :) ) Log and dxdiiag. attached in the first post now. Even with a fresh DCS config, no metashaders the result is the same. I've also tried disabling DEP as test and the error changes to a dxd11.dll (or similar) but still crashes at the same point. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 Thanks Nate, yeah I have just been trying to google this one also. What antivirus are you using? Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Avira Free. Will uninstall as a test........ Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 lots of different answers on the web. Some suggest closing all other programs to rule out that as an issue. and then some saying to do a memory test it is a strange one for sure Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Getting a bit further now the AV is gone, DCS is recognising it is crashing and creating its own log package (see attached). Again something is pointing to DirextX Dlls as the faulting module. Will try going back to 2.5.0 to see if it still occurs...... Natedcs.log-20180428-103058.zip Edited April 28, 2018 by Nate--IRL-- Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 2018-04-28 10:30:59.137 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20180428-103058 -------------- 2018-04-28 10:30:59.137 INFO EDCORE: C:\Windows\system32\d3d11.dll 2018-04-28 10:30:59.137 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at E65C00FD 00:00000000 2018-04-28 10:30:59.140 INFO EDCORE: 00000000 00000000 0000:00000000 2018-04-28 10:30:59.143 INFO EDCORE: E65C00FD 0013DBC0 0000:00000000 C:\Windows\system32\d3d11.dll D3D11CreateDeviceAndSwapChain()+5 2018-04-28 10:30:59.143 INFO EDCORE: CAF432B9 0013DCD0 0000:00000000 C:\DCS World\bin\dxgi.dll D3D11CreateDeviceAndSwapChain()+2B9 2018-04-28 10:30:59.144 INFO EDCORE: CAF42FE2 0013DDA0 0000:00000000 C:\DCS World\bin\dxgi.dll D3D11CreateDevice()+2C2 looks like display driver crash here maybe a clean GPU driver install may help I use DDU cleaner when I do mine, it may help Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 No Joy with DDU cleaning out drivers from safe mode.... resuming the rollback to 2.5 to see if that has any effect. Many thanks for the suggestions BIGNEWY - much appreciated. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 no worries, let me know how you get on Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Grrr, no joy with 2.5. So it is something else broken. Odd that it's only the one app having the issue. Any other suggestions gratefully accepted.... Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 anything changed recently Nate? programs or windows updates? try running in safe mode see if you get a difference Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 So... I gave up. Turned on my Second screen and was watching football... try DCS again on a whim... et voila, DCS loads. Makes no sense :) Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 LOL that is PC's for you :) at least you are up and running again. enjoy Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Damn, no it's still broken. I'd reverted the wrong copy of DCS world to 2.5, so I was in 2.5 not 2.5.1. I can now verify 2.5 runs perfectly and that 2.5.1 crashes every time before initialising the main menu, with both versions side by side on the computer. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 rgr Nate I will try and point ED this way, I have never seen this one before as far as I can remember. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 Nate is your windows up to date with meltdown patch? Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Much obliged BIGNEWY. I note that only when DEP is disabled, does DCS realise it has crashed and produce crash logs. The Latest set of which are attached. Natedcs.log-20180428-172815.zip Edited April 28, 2018 by Nate--IRL-- Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Windows updated as of today (minus the Preview rollup... April 17, 2018—KB4093113 (Preview of Monthly Rollup) Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 Damn, no it's still broken. I'd reverted the wrong copy of DCS world to 2.5, so I was in 2.5 not 2.5.1. I can now verify 2.5 runs perfectly and that 2.5.1 crashes every time before initialising the main menu, with both versions side by side on the computer. Nate In your 2.5 is Deferred Shading disabled? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 No - its on, but good idea. Note the DCS config is completely fresh for testing this out. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 try a installing / renewing Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable Update 3 RC https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=52685 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 I had a slightly older build number of VC 2015, alas, updating it had no effect. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 OK after a bit of further sleuthing I've discovered that a fresh windows profile will run 2.5.1.......... Since none of the modules were activated on the fresh profile, I've uninstalled them to test on the main profile. No Dice. Hmmm what about running apps on the main profile? FRAPS hooks into DirectX does it not? Oh yes it does! I can confirm that FRAPS v 3.5.2 (of 2012 vintage) will crash 2.5.1. Updating to FRAPS 3.5.99 doesn'twork either. Took a while but I'm up and running for definite now. many thanks for the help along the way. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2018 Good news Nate :) thanks for the info Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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