beagleRampant Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Okay, so shall we share our initial thoughts, experiences and tips? First takeoff: it just shot into the air while I was still settling in to my seat. My stick was back and it nearly stalled. So, really short take-off roll! Landing: came in gently; thought I had a nice rate of descent. Nope, bounced up a long way. Came down hard, broke one prop blade. Otherwise, I walked away on the first go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 LOL! Sounds about right... Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimmerdylan Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Yeah....it goes up pretty darn fast. Took me by surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datek Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I always feel like I'm landing on a rubber runway with the WWII birds. The bounces seem really exaggurated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I always feel like I'm landing on a rubber runway with the WWII birds. The bounces seem really exaggurated. It can be done without bounce...your just not doing it with precision. The best touch down is when you don't even feel it. Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 A challenging plane to fly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beagleRampant Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 First takeoff: it just shot into the air while I was still settling in to my seat. My stick was back and it nearly stalled. So, really short take-off roll! Ah yes, that'll be the old "trim nose down for take-off" thing. I say why stop her from flying when that's what she wants to do :music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Took off successfully had a wee fly and went to dogfight mission. I imagine I will be doing a lot of this for a while:) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowsniper Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Wags note: Landing at 95 mph is waaaaay to fast. Touchdown should be between 60 and 70 mph. The bounces seem really exaggurated. Nope. just get the right 3 points attitude. at 95mph or less So ... first take off and landing (with half fuel) was done without any damage ( and without any bounce ) first feeling : - very hard to taxi straight. have to practice.( tail wheel...) - front wheel seems very closed from each other ...on landing. - such a beauty... it's amazing - did a few roll and loop. God, ...incredible feeling - I though I know well the spit, but for sure ... I don't. It's a joy to discover. Edited December 16, 2016 by Wags i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moafuleum Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Around the pitch axis, the spit seems veeeery sensitive. Without calibrating the axis curve it is nearly uncontrollable for me with my hotas t.flight and so i nearly crashed during takeoff. I instantly got an angle of attack of about 60° or so :D And then the instructor has the nerves to say "keep the stick pulled and release it gently" :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted December 16, 2016 ED Team Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) For takeoff, the throttle should be run up to +7 to +9 boost in about six seconds. With proper elevator trim, she will lift off by herself. I set my takeoff elevator trim to the center position on the indicator. Edited December 16, 2016 by Wags Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I was having trouble with ghostly pedal inputs but found I had an assistance for take off set to 100%. Going to try again without it and will report back i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted December 16, 2016 ED Team Share Posted December 16, 2016 Around the pitch axis, the spit seems veeeery sensitive. Without calibrating the axis curve it is nearly uncontrollable for me with my hotas t.flight and so i nearly crashed during takeoff. I instantly got an angle of attack of about 60° or so :D And then the instructor has the nerves to say "keep the stick pulled and release it gently" :pilotfly: Sounds like you have too much nose up trim at takeoff. Very easy to control here. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krupi Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 The damn beast leaped into the air so quickly I panicked :lol: Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I put the takeoff assist back on, its the only way I can take off:music_whistling: What a lovely plane:thumbup: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golani79 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I imagined the TO being harder - for me it just needs a bit more getting used to the plane for more refinement but otherwise it is quite enjoyable on TO. I find it even easier to TO than the 109. >> DCS liveries by golani79 << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted December 16, 2016 ED Team Share Posted December 16, 2016 The damn beast leaped into the air so quickly I panicked :lol: With proper elevator trim, it should not "leap", rather, it should have a gentle takeoff at neutral stick. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted December 16, 2016 ED Team Share Posted December 16, 2016 I imagined the TO being harder - for me it just needs a bit more getting used to the plane for more refinement but otherwise it is quite enjoyable on TO. I find it even easier to TO than the 109. Yes, quite easy once have get the basics down and have the right amount of takeoff trim set. Good use of rudder is also important, and even more so when landing. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I had an assistance for take off set to 100% Me too. Took off without problems, thought "hmmm, this is too easy", noticed the TO assistance is on, turned it off, went back, tried again and promptly veered off the runway, crashed and burned. :megalol: Love this bird. She really is a stunner! The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legman Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I am still on that phase (all aids off) where i need to crash 100 planes before taking off. Exciting! DCS Discord community - https://discord.gg/U8aqzVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowsniper Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I imagined the TO being harder - for me it just needs a bit more getting used to the plane for more refinement but otherwise it is quite enjoyable on TO. I find it even easier to TO than the 109. Yep, I would say and even easier than this damned FW190 :megalol: i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humptydumpty Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 sorry to post this here but is there no way i can switch off that mirror ? i am getting 10 fps right now on the Aerobatics online server because that mirror chews up everything. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Attitude Power Trim Power Attitude Trim Wing Commander SWAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooternutz Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Wags, I watched the video and that helped. I do my run up checks and adjust the Engine RPMs. Once centered on the runway, center pitch trim, and then I jam the throttle to 3000 RPM quickly. That gives me good rudder authority right from the get go. I do seem to be doing a right wing dip at times, easily recoverable. She does lift off on her own. A couple of times I didn't even realize it. I adjusted my my Buttkicker and now can feel the smooth air once the wheels leave the ground. Landings...Still working on that. Edited December 16, 2016 by Scooternutz I suck at spelling. [sIGPIC]https://drive.google.com/file/d/16rUBmmJR7A3YGZVGPGskxG1XtvulGojJ/view?usp=sharing[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflected Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I just cannot land the damn thing. The touchdown is OK, but after that the plane wants to veer off, and I usually hit the ground with a wingtip - or both. How do you keep it straight? Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted December 16, 2016 ED Team Share Posted December 16, 2016 Wags, I watched the video and that helped. I do my run up checks and adjust the Engine RPMs. Once centered on the runway, center pitch trim, and then I jam the throttle to 3000 RPM quickly. That gives me good rudder authority right from the get go. I do seem to be doing a right wing dip at times, easily recoverable. She does lift off on her own. A couple of times I didn't even realize it. I adjusted my my Buttkicker and now can feel the smooth air once the wheels leave the ground. Landings...Still working on that. Good job! Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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