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IMHO, The F-16C Fits in the Current Theatre's a little bit better than the F-4E would.

Just to comment on the F-14C: like most NAVY fighters it wasn't just a "fleet defender", it doubled as a very capable strike fighter, as well.

Currently reading some Osprey books on OEF and OIF.

The F-14C and F/A-18C did a lot of deep strikes, CAS and what not...

 

F-14C? Never heard of that.

 

F-14C was the protoype developed for the Air Force.

F-14C was the protoype developed for the Air Force.

 

Which means it did not fly a deep strike mission anywhere.

IMHO, The F-16C Fits in the Current Theatre's a little bit better than the F-4E would.

The F-4E fits perfect, Iran is using them.

Which means it did not fly a deep strike mission anywhere.

I really hate typing on smartphones... ;)

 

You know which aircraft I mean. The big one with the swing wing.

Was realy looking forward to the f4.

 

It could be a cornerstone for cold war era historical set up.

Edited July 15, 2018 by Dodly

The F-4E fits perfect, Iran is using them.

 

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F-14C was the protoype developed for the Air Force.

You know which aircraft I mean. The big one with the swing wing.

 

 

what ? :D the Phantom is pretty big enough (like an Eagle), especially next to a Hornet or a Viper :smilewink:

but honestly, I know what you mean :yes:

I love when she wears ASB :music_whistling:

Edited July 15, 2018 by NRG-Vampire

Everyone gets an opinion, here is mine.

 

I'm surprised when I heard that the F-16 was next because honestly it's already done to death in another similar sim we all know, and it's been on the market for years.

 

I think the most interesting aspect of DCS is that it tackles aircraft that are not that mainstream. I would never have thought I would be interested in the KA-50 or the Mirage 2000 but after rolling the dice on them they are my favorite aircraft. Even the Mi-8 I find to be such a departure than anything else I've ever simmed in my life that I am glad they developed it with such care and detail.

 

I purchased the F-18, even against my best judgement and honestly I'm underwhelmed. It's not that it isn't a nice capable aircraft but rather I've seen it, in previous sims, over and over. not that it isn't better, more detailed etc but it's vanilla, press a few buttons and you lock something, press button fire, pull 9g's, hit afterburner etc etc. I can't help but think the F-16 is the same, because it is.

 

Maybe I'm old school, but after you've played sim after sim with a HUD and MFD's you get kinda burned out on all the tech and appreciate how much work crews had to do with older aircraft to get things done. I guess that is why I'd prefer to see the F-4 vs another electric jet with computer screens all over the place doing the same thing I have already been doing for years.

 

Maybe the next module can be a drone and you just stay on the F10 map screen and point and click where you want it to go and fight.

 

Old man opinion over.

I'm torn. Personally I wanted an F-4 for some opfor action on PG. But the F-16 will have a great following and grab some more people to the genre and get multiplayer more fat. I'm not sure it will come as fast as anyone hopes, there's no such thing as fast development in DCS, those feeling optimistic just need to go look at cold facts and reset expectations. I sincerely expect the pipeline to have only made the next module much further away. F-18 isn't done by a long long way. Nothing wrong with this though, it's a good lineup.

Everyone gets an opinion, here is mine.

 

I'm surprised when I heard that the F-16 was next because honestly it's already done to death in another similar sim we all know, and it's been on the market for years.

 

I think the most interesting aspect of DCS is that it tackles aircraft that are not that mainstream. I would never have thought I would be interested in the KA-50 or the Mirage 2000 but after rolling the dice on them they are my favorite aircraft. Even the Mi-8 I find to be such a departure than anything else I've ever simmed in my life that I am glad they developed it with such care and detail.

 

I purchased the F-18, even against my best judgement and honestly I'm underwhelmed. It's not that it isn't a nice capable aircraft but rather I've seen it, in previous sims, over and over. not that it isn't better, more detailed etc but it's vanilla, press a few buttons and you lock something, press button fire, pull 9g's, hit afterburner etc etc. I can't help but think the F-16 is the same, because it is.

 

Maybe I'm old school, but after you've played sim after sim with a HUD and MFD's you get kinda burned out on all the tech and appreciate how much work crews had to do with older aircraft to get things done. I guess that is why I'd prefer to see the F-4 vs another electric jet with computer screens all over the place doing the same thing I have already been doing for years.

 

Maybe the next module can be a drone and you just stay on the F10 map screen and point and click where you want it to go and fight.

 

Old man opinion over.

 

 

Yea I agree 100%. To me all the US aircraft that people are claiming for (which also includes Razbam's F15E) feel pretty same-ish. They are great machines just...not with the soul of a Viggen or Phantom in my opinion. Sad to see the F16 having precedence but what can you do, it's likely going to sell very well and ED would be silly to pass that up.

Everyone gets an opinion, here is mine.

 

I'm surprised when I heard that the F-16 was next because honestly it's already done to death in another similar sim we all know, and it's been on the market for years.

 

I think the most interesting aspect of DCS is that it tackles aircraft that are not that mainstream. I would never have thought I would be interested in the KA-50 or the Mirage 2000 but after rolling the dice on them they are my favorite aircraft. Even the Mi-8 I find to be such a departure than anything else I've ever simmed in my life that I am glad they developed it with such care and detail.

 

I purchased the F-18, even against my best judgement and honestly I'm underwhelmed. It's not that it isn't a nice capable aircraft but rather I've seen it, in previous sims, over and over. not that it isn't better, more detailed etc but it's vanilla, press a few buttons and you lock something, press button fire, pull 9g's, hit afterburner etc etc. I can't help but think the F-16 is the same, because it is.

 

Maybe I'm old school, but after you've played sim after sim with a HUD and MFD's you get kinda burned out on all the tech and appreciate how much work crews had to do with older aircraft to get things done. I guess that is why I'd prefer to see the F-4 vs another electric jet with computer screens all over the place doing the same thing I have already been doing for years.

 

Maybe the next module can be a drone and you just stay on the F10 map screen and point and click where you want it to go and fight.

 

Old man opinion over.

 

I totally agree... I was way more interested in the F-4 than in the F-16... I see no real need for the F-16 right now in DCS.

I'm so sad it's being postponed. :(

Well it doesn't matter what ED announce - people will always moan about it.

 

F-16 has been requested repeatedly for years now - they will make a lot of money from it.

I think the most interesting aspect of DCS is that it tackles aircraft that are not that mainstream. I would never have thought I would be interested in the KA-50 or the Mirage 2000 but after rolling the dice on them they are my favorite aircraft. Even the Mi-8 I find to be such a departure than anything else I've ever simmed in my life that I am glad they developed it with such care and detail.

 

 

Amen to that my friend.

Pages of idle chatter that glide over the most important bit:

 

Hornet, Yak-52, Mi-24,

 

The Hornet is here, the Yak is on its way, and the Mi-24 is next in that list after that !!!

I love the F-16 and will pick it up in a second. I also will pick the F-4 up in a second. I love the older jets. I'm really looking forward to the Mig-23 though. Can't wait for that one. And of course my fav since I was little, the F-14 :)

Yepp, still it definitely is what I would call a multirole jet?! F-4E can't tank others either... ;)

 

 

But it can Pardo Push! Who needs tankers! hah!

 

 

Having said that, I'd like the Cobra/Falcon before the F4. I understand that a modern jet is a modern jet is a modern jet. But landing on an aircraft carrier with FA18? That's a neat feeling. I was so happy when I landed my first carrier trap on F19 Stealth Fighter. And to see it in all its glory with DCS, incredible.

 

 

But I'll buy anything from DCS except MIGs. Just couldn't care less. But everything else, I'll buy to support them.

 

 

 

Blackhawks, Apache, Little Bird are all on my wish list. And then I have the Corsairs; here's to hoping someone makes that one.

Edited July 17, 2018 by hansangb

But it can Pardo Push! Who needs tankers! hah!

 

 

Having said that, I'd like the Cobra/Falcon before the F4. I understand that a modern jet is a modern jet is a modern jet. But landing on an aircraft carrier with FA18? That's a neat feeling. I was so happy when I landed my first carrier trap on F19 Stealth Fighter. And to see it in all its glory with DCS, incredible.

 

 

But I'll buy anything from DCS except MIGs. Just couldn't care less. But everything else, I'll buy to support them.

 

 

 

Blackhawks, Apache, Little Bird are all on my wish list. And then I have the Corsairs; here's to hoping someone makes that one.

Wasn't the F-4E equipped with a boom receptacle? I'm really not sure, here. :dunno:

F16 , Dynamic Campaign , F18 , F15E ... it will be 2002 all over again. :megalol:

 

I'm a huge F16 fan , cant wait for it , but I dont think its all about the aircraft.

"The other sim" have 20 years of content in it and a solid gameplay ( dynamic campaing first ) , it wont be easy challenging it.

 

Like AC/DC once said : "its a long way to the top if you wanna rock'n'roll".

Wasn't the F-4E equipped with a boom receptacle? I'm really not sure, here. :dunno:

 

 

 

 

LOL. No, I believe it was the tailhook to Pardo's canopy where the windshield meets the fuselage.

LOL. No, I believe it was the tailhook to Pardo's canopy where the windshield meets the fuselage.

At least I couldn't find any footage or pictures for an F-4E with a probe...all were with the refueling receptacle and boom, like here:

At least I couldn't find any footage or pictures for an F-4E with a probe...all were with the refueling receptacle and boom, like here:

 

 

 

 

Remember, he had to push the plane, so he had to keep the tailhook in front of him. He wouldn't have been able to maneuver the plane with the contact point behind his line of sight.

 

 

So it was the tail hook of the aircraft in trouble, that touched Pardo's windshield (where it meets the fuselage).

Drop everything else and get this bad boy finished!

 

Great news. DCS is in great shape right now.

 

Slazi : +1

I totally agree...

At the moment we have only one great attack helicopter : the Ka-50 !

The first real DCS module...quiet a long time ago.

Since then nice rotary wings but not a real attack and multiple weapons platform...

When you look on the different forum, a lot of people are expecting the Mi-24 Hind !

I am waiting since months and even years for this magnificient machine !

Pages of idle chatter that glide over the most important bit:

 

 

 

The Hornet is here, the Yak is on its way, and the Mi-24 is next in that list after that !!!

 

We don't know if that list is in order..