LeCuvier Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Since the latest update the Dora systematically starts shaking after taking a few hits. It's not what I would call a vibration - she is shaking really bad. The dashboard is literally wobbling. As other people reported similar problems for the Bf-109K4, I suspect it's caused by changes in the damage model. LeCuvier Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i7-4790 CPU |16 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| MSI GTX-1080 Gaming 8 GB| Acer XB270HU | TM Warthog HOTAS | VKB Gladiator Pro | MongoosT-50 | MFG Crosswind Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Since the latest update the Dora systematically starts shaking after taking a few hits. It's not what I would call a vibration - she is shaking really bad. The dashboard is literally wobbling. As other people reported similar problems for the Bf-109K4, I suspect it's caused by changes in the damage model. I can add, yesterday i was flying bf-109 on aerobatics server, was testing high speed dives from 35k, when i did pull up from dive, i ripped my 1/4 of both wings, Cockpit started to shake horribly. I managed to land this bird, i shut down engine, but cockpit shake didn't pass away. It was still shaking on the gorund, when plane was standing still with engine off. System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 yes can confirm, every hit basically results in this realy bad shaking. on all axis planes i might add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduro14 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 dev's need tracks so they can diagnose it..... Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) [NEED TRACK REPLAY]Dora starts shaking when hit Yep experienced it today. Extreme shaking!!! Very nauseating in VR, once I landed and reduce throttle to idle it still continued very bad. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited May 22, 2020 by Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 23, 2020 ED Team Share Posted May 23, 2020 Hey guys, same as the 109, some new additions to pilot injuries and DM have slipped in here, Its kinda cool in the new DM, but has caused some serious weirdness with the old one, I will report this as well. Thanks guys, and sorry! Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingme Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Hey guys, same as the 109, some new additions to pilot injuries and DM have slipped in here, Its kinda cool in the new DM, but has caused some serious weirdness with the old one, I will report this as well. Thanks guys, and sorry! 'Slipped'.. by itself? And how could it been slipped in all axis modules only, I wonder? Totally unprofessional it seems, at least to me. But apologies accepted though.. as long as this would be fix rather soon. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk Specs: Asus Z97 PRO Gamer, i7 4790K@4.6GHz, 4x8GB Kingston @2400MHz 11-13-14-32, Titan X, Creative X-Fi, 128+2x250GB SSDs, VPC T50 Throttle + G940, MFG Crosswinds, TrackIR 5 w/ pro clip, JetSeat, Win10 Pro 64-bit, Oculus Rift, 27"@1920x1080 Settings:2.1.x - Textures:High Terrain:High Civ.Traffic:Off Water:High VisRan:Low Heatblur:High Shadows:High Res:1920x1080 RoC:1024 MSAA:4x AF:16x HDR:OFF DefS: ON GCI: ON DoF:Off Lens: OFF C/G:390m Trees:1500m R:max Gamma: 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExplosion Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Will there be a hotfix for it? Or even a regular fix in the next patch? Or will we be stuck with this until the damage model is released? Kein Anderer als ein Jäger spürt, Den Kampf und Sieg so konzentriert. Das macht uns glücklich, stolz und froh, Der Jägerei ein Horrido! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExplosion Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I bumped it to blocking issue internally it should be on the shortlist for fixes needed for sure. Saw this now in the 109 forum. Sounds good to me. Kein Anderer als ein Jäger spürt, Den Kampf und Sieg so konzentriert. Das macht uns glücklich, stolz und froh, Der Jägerei ein Horrido! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Hey guys, same as the 109, some new additions to pilot injuries and DM have slipped in here, Its kinda cool in the new DM, but has caused some serious weirdness with the old one, I will report this as well. Thanks guys, and sorry! Thank you for clearing it up for us. Its just frustrating, but after cooling down and thinking about it, if this is a glimpse of whats to come in the new DM then i am even more excited for it. :thumbup::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 23, 2020 ED Team Share Posted May 23, 2020 'Slipped'.. by itself? And how could it been slipped in all axis modules only, I wonder? Totally unprofessional it seems, at least to me. But apologies accepted though.. as long as this would be fix rather soon. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk The DM is in the current version but disabled, part of it wasn't disabled or had unexpected effects on the old version, it's already fixed internally. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduro14 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The DM is in the current version but disabled, part of it wasn't disabled or had unexpected effects on the old version, it's already fixed internally. So, uh what 0 do we change to 1 to enable it :megalol::joystick: Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExplosion Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 The DM is in the current version but disabled, part of it wasn't disabled or had unexpected effects on the old version, it's already fixed internally. I am really wondering why it is already rolled out in a disabled state? Care to enlighten us? Asking because it feels really strange from a software development point of view. Kein Anderer als ein Jäger spürt, Den Kampf und Sieg so konzentriert. Das macht uns glücklich, stolz und froh, Der Jägerei ein Horrido! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 24, 2020 ED Team Share Posted May 24, 2020 I am really wondering why it is already rolled out in a disabled state? Care to enlighten us? Asking because it feels really strange from a software development point of view. Because we are doing limited testing with the public. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduro14 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Because we are doing limited testing with the public. Ah, so is that why my radio in the Mustang malfunctioned and screamed squelch at me constantly after being bullet riddled.... Awesome!! :thumbup: Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 30, 2020 ED Team Share Posted May 30, 2020 We have some W.I.P damage effects in the open beta, If you are still seeing issues please attach a track replay showing the anomaly. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeCuvier Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 I've seen the phenomenon in MP today, in two successive missions. Track would be too big to upload. LeCuvier Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i7-4790 CPU |16 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| MSI GTX-1080 Gaming 8 GB| Acer XB270HU | TM Warthog HOTAS | VKB Gladiator Pro | MongoosT-50 | MFG Crosswind Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Any news on this? I've experienced this as well in normal gameplay. When damaged the main panel was shaking violently. I did a more or less successful emergency landing, came to full stop, turned the engine off and was yanked in the air and exploded. So I set up a test-mission and tried to land dozens of times. Undamaged I am now able to land more or less gracefully (still learning ;)) and taxi on normally. Damaged however (By dropping a bomb at low altitude and being hit by shrapnel) I didn't not manage anything that could be called a landing. The main problem I found is that the collision-detection for the prop is not working properly. When the Prop hits the ground most of the time nothing happens and the engine works normally. High RPM's are no problem, even if half of the prop is in the ground. I was able to taxi nose down (on main wheels and propspinner) for a minute or so and was able to steer with brakes. When Idle or when the prop is spinning down, it starts to catch, the prop finally breaks and yanks the plane in the air. I attached the trk-file for one of those tests. First a low-alt bomb-drop to inflict some damage, then the attempt to land at nearby airfield. I end up on the nose (with propeller intact), 'taxi' around in that position for a bit, shut of the engine, which leads to final destruction. I'm on Open Beta, by the way.Dora_DamagedLandingBug4.trk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 16, 2020 ED Team Share Posted July 16, 2020 Any news on this? I've experienced this as well in normal gameplay. When damaged the main panel was shaking violently. I did a more or less successful emergency landing, came to full stop, turned the engine off and was yanked in the air and exploded. So I set up a test-mission and tried to land dozens of times. Undamaged I am now able to land more or less gracefully (still learning ;)) and taxi on normally. Damaged however (By dropping a bomb at low altitude and being hit by shrapnel) I didn't not manage anything that could be called a landing. The main problem I found is that the collision-detection for the prop is not working properly. When the Prop hits the ground most of the time nothing happens and the engine works normally. High RPM's are no problem, even if half of the prop is in the ground. I was able to taxi nose down (on main wheels and propspinner) for a minute or so and was able to steer with brakes. When Idle or when the prop is spinning down, it starts to catch, the prop finally breaks and yanks the plane in the air. I attached the trk-file for one of those tests. First a low-alt bomb-drop to inflict some damage, then the attempt to land at nearby airfield. I end up on the nose (with propeller intact), 'taxi' around in that position for a bit, shut of the engine, which leads to final destruction. I'm on Open Beta, by the way. Latest open beta looks like it is better. The shaking is due to engine damage, and will look a whole lot better once the new damage model is public. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingme Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Latest open beta looks like it is better. The shaking is due to engine damage, and will look a whole lot better once the new damage model is public. thanksConfirm that is much better than before the update. Also, the power loss seems to be fixed. Can we have a confirmation on this too? Thanks. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk Specs: Asus Z97 PRO Gamer, i7 4790K@4.6GHz, 4x8GB Kingston @2400MHz 11-13-14-32, Titan X, Creative X-Fi, 128+2x250GB SSDs, VPC T50 Throttle + G940, MFG Crosswinds, TrackIR 5 w/ pro clip, JetSeat, Win10 Pro 64-bit, Oculus Rift, 27"@1920x1080 Settings:2.1.x - Textures:High Terrain:High Civ.Traffic:Off Water:High VisRan:Low Heatblur:High Shadows:High Res:1920x1080 RoC:1024 MSAA:4x AF:16x HDR:OFF DefS: ON GCI: ON DoF:Off Lens: OFF C/G:390m Trees:1500m R:max Gamma: 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extranajero Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Confirm that is much better than before the update. Also, the power loss seems to be fixed. Can we have a confirmation on this too? Thanks. Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk The shaking is way better, but the Dora can still only manage 360mph at sea level and 380mph at 6000ft, the same as prior to this update. --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduro14 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 yup she is a slow poke until bug is fixed Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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