R-27ER question

I really don’t understand how come you can keep telling the R-27 is not in Russian inventory.

I wasn't the one who said it.

So saw you last time in Aim-54 thread telling is nothing imposible for such a great missile...

Prove it, show where I said those words.

Is that not a radome cover?

Pay attention to the color of the head P-27. The R-27P has a bright yellow head.

Is that not a radome cover?

Not. This is not a protective cap. The protective cap is always red.

And conical instead of ogive - ok, fair enough.

The head of the P-27P is colored bright yellow so that it can be visually distinguished from the P-27R.

Even the MiG-29 manual has reference to the R-27EP.

For example it says that the missile can even be used in Fi0-mode similar to a heatseeking missile. The tone will be played when the missile seeker has found a target. It also says that the radar complex has to be turned off in Fi0 mode to avoid detection of the planes own radiation.

Yes, but until now there was no evidence of the missile being in inventory. Also, while there have been lengthier descriptions written for tactics used with the 27R/T, there were no such descriptions for the 27P.

Of course, that only raises a bit of suspicion - for western fighters some weapon use is in manuals that you can't have access too ... though this is unusual in that if you find one weapon being described in a particular way, you'll usually find all the others, too.

Yes, but until now there was no evidence of the missile being in inventory. Also, while there have been lengthier descriptions written for tactics used with the 27R/T, there were no such descriptions for the 27P.

 

Of course, that only raises a bit of suspicion - for western fighters some weapon use is in manuals that you can't have access too ... though this is unusual in that if you find one weapon being described in a particular way, you'll usually find all the others, too.

Manuals of aircraft that can use the R-27P -secret are not in the public domain. There is some information about this missile.

That's fine. As far as DCS is concerned it would be on late model Su-27/30/34. But on the on the player Su-27.

That's fine. As far as DCS is concerned it would be on late model Su-27/30/34. But on the on the player Su-27.

R-27P can use Su-33

That's fine. As far as DCS is concerned it would be on late model Su-27/30/34. But on the on the player Su-27.

Cuba, East Germany, Hungary etc. have R-27R in inventory. These missiles was exported from Soviet Union. then what is your proof to tell R-27 is not in Russia inventory.

You will not find any information about what version or improved version is in inventory. they seem not to name specific improved series.

He is talking about this thread, as said info is from Chizh

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=229050&page=26

According to Chizh the Russian pilots haven't seen any of them in inventory.

Because they will not see any remarcable mark that tell is the improved R-27.

Do you guys even read? This was about the 27P.

Sorry, post 232 in the thread I linked Chizh answers your question about use of the EP

No. We have not found any evidence of the use of this missile.

I thought that was the confirmation by Chizh you were referring to

Ah yes, correct. Thank You.