Virpil MT50 - Full Teardown & Score

I was willing to buy, but after this video, I have some doubts. is it really so poor as quality?

Umm ok, but that video seemed to be a very positive review??

Not sure what you're on about, nothing I saw in that video would stop me from buying one.

Man Buys Mt-50. What Happened Next Will Surprise You!

OK, I'm confused. That seemed like a very positive review.

Umm ok, but that video seemed to be a very positive review??

And why not? He don't find any "game stop".

Is know since day one that VPC grips shells, buttons, HAT's are made in plastic (and not in jewelry metal) - cast receive 8.5 note, seems fair compared with 10 of the previous teardown - Warthog.

Switches under plastic cap are OMRON (used too by CH and VKB) - better than open copper membrane use in an "famous" stick or switches in Saitek's.

The hot glue fixing connectors make interior looks "handicraft" but are common in low production electronics. Saitek's love this. :D

Wires look's a bit more thick than in CH sticks - know for last decades.

Opera resume: grip assembly are not in Iphone standards, but seems functional. :joystick:

has also created other videos about the hotas warthog and VKB. this of virpil ranked third...

look at the final score

I took apart the throttle yesterday. Apart from the funny amount of hot glue and a couple of hand filed plastic parts, all looks very simple and modular, very solid. I was impressed.

OP, are you focusing on the grip, or grip and base?

Yeah... I'm not seeing any issues there, it's pretty typical for high-end, hand made products of any type to be like this.

It may not look like an iProduct internally, but, you can also DIY repair it easily if need be, unlike say, an iProduct...

Z...

Honestly, all 3: VKB, VPC and TMWH have grips that are all about the same. Each have pros/cons or something you might prefer in one over the other.

For me, I cannot stand the short Hat-switch movement of the VKB/VPC. The TMWH Trimmer hat feels so much better.

But anyone would be happy with any of those options. I'm particularly interested in the new VPC stick with additional push buttons on hats. But I don't think I'll get over the the TMWH hat switch.

Does Thrustmaster sell the WH grip separately?

yes they do, I even saw a price tag in another thread not that many months ago. I think it was like ~$120 or so .... but don't take my word for it :)

I don't want to advertise negatively. I'm just trying to clarify and understand the product. I was willing to buy, and I hope the VPC team gets better with time.

I don't want to advertise negatively. I'm just trying to clarify and understand the product. I was willing to buy, and I hope the VPC team gets better with time.

No problem, we were just trying to understand what in that video review gave you the poor impression.

I don't see anything "poor" in that grip. Instead a very very good design.

I do say two things, that the amount of hotglue is a good thing, but can make parts swapping just little more difficult.

And the only thing that I personally find as negative is the plastic break leveler that I would think I would some day pull to two pieces.

Otherwise I don't see anything wrong in that grip.

When a cheap Saitek/Logitech grips survive, then those will survive 100th times better.

And when it comes to bases, that is where the difference is.

For me, I cannot stand the short Hat-switch movement of the VKB/VPC. The TMWH Trimmer hat feels so much better.

 

... VPC stick with additional push buttons on hats. But I don't think I'll get over the the TMWH hat switch.

In this you are right, Tm HAT's construction use an dedicated spring for add "weight" in HAT operation, VKB/VPC/CH/Saitek use just the micro-switch copper membrane.

I can't stand the DCS input system for the trimmer buttons, you can't do any fine trimming with them as you need to do shortest possible press of any trimming button to get the trimming accurate. I am constantly balancing trimming with half to one degree accuracy and I can get better leveling without trimming then.

The TM WH trimmer is even worse as it doesn't have possibility to quickly tap the trim so you get instant feedback that it is done.

Where a such flexible hat is nice is when you need to do the confirmation by that larger motion of hat direction for example select the the display or weapon.

Isn’t the real F-18 stick made out of resin? I had heard that but I’m not 100 percent on it.

I don't see anything "poor" in that grip. Instead a very very good design.

I do say two things, that the amount of hotglue is a good thing, but can make parts swapping just little more difficult.

 

And the only thing that I personally find as negative is the plastic break leveler that I would think I would some day pull to two pieces.

 

Otherwise I don't see anything wrong in that grip.

 

When a cheap Saitek/Logitech grips survive, then those will survive 100th times better.

 

And when it comes to bases, that is where the difference is.

I would like to see a metal replacement for that - the analog operation, coupled with the thin plastic makes it feel very vague for me. Otherwise, I think the new TM50 v2 hits the mark.

Z...

my doubt is seen the low score compared to the warthog hotas.

Is just one guy opinion, most people will consider VKB casting better, but he give lower note for this - probable due issue with embed bolt nuts in some (VKB) grips.

VKB grip electronics are completely different - and has advanced features, than Warthog/VPC, but he give same note for Warthog/VKB.

VPC/Warthog grip electronics is the same (CD4021 shift register).

Thanks