AGM62 Bomb vs Missile

Why is it that AGM62 is under bomb, but the other glide bombs (AGM154) are under missile?

I was wondering the same, I think AGM means "air to ground missile", isnt it?

It's a misnomer.

They called it AGM when they started developing it, then they realized it didn't make sense, but the deed was done. I think they officially refrained from using that designation, though, using "Walleye" (I & II) and "Guided weapon, MK X" instead.

It's a misnomer.

Air to Ground Misnomer? It has a ring to it and might catch on :smilewink:

Glide ordinance is it’s own thing, got its own (excellent) brevity code and everything

fox X - AA Missile

Rifle - AG missile

Magnum - anti-radiation

And of course, Pigs away for gliders

DCS-wise I vote for moving it to missiles to be consistent with the AGM-154s.

I would also like to have consistency between the JSOW and the Walleye. Either they are both missiles or they are both bombs.

They called it AGM when they started developing it, then they realized it didn't make sense, but the deed was done. I think they officially refrained from using that designation, though, using "Walleye" (I & II) and "Guided weapon, MK X" instead.

But then they used the same designation again for the AGm-154 JSOW. :huh:

...and the USAF used "F" for the 117, while it should have been an "A" or perhaps a "B". TL;DR: don't expect things to be logical or consistent.

JSOW have a rocket booster so they are launched as if they were missiles.

Walleye don't.

I think that is the idea behind being in different categories.

The regular A/B/C models of JSOW that we have, or will have, in-game does not have a rocket boost.

There is a JSOW-ER but that's not something we have the pleasure of getting our dirty mittens on.

The regular A/B/C models of JSOW that we have, or will have, in-game does not have a rocket boost.

There is a JSOW-ER but that's not something we have the pleasure of getting our dirty mittens on.

Are you sure they don't? Then why they have a small smoke trail when launched and they launch forward?

I have never seen a smoke trail from them. Do you have a picture?

I have never seen a smoke trail from them. Do you have a picture?

Yeah I have never seen any smoke or boost from the JSOW, they are purely glide bombs. He might be thinking of mavericks.

Are you sure they don't? Then why they have a small smoke trail when launched and they launch forward?

They absolutely do not have a smoke trail or any kind of motor.

Maybe he is thinking of contrails. Do JSOWs leave contrails?

I can't imagine they would.. I don't think they exhaust water vapor....

I also personally think JSOW's would be better categorized as a bomb instead of a missile.. but our bomb list is already quite lengthy.. and our missile list not so much. :)

Contrails are caused by lift aren't they, not any kind of exhaust?

Contrails are "condensation trails" they are condensation, and they form for the same reasons that condensation forms anywhere else.. just this time as a trail behind the aircraft.

So they form because of the sudden increase in pressure caused by the wings?

Anyway, off topic. My original point is that the AGM62 and AGM154 should be in the same category of weapon, because they are both glide bombs. Whether ED want that to be missile or bomb is irrelevant, they should be the same.

Condensation trails are caused by condensation of the water in the combustion gas at high altitudes, and also result when pressure drops in the air mass fast enough that it is approximately adiabatic and the local temperature of the air lowers below the dew point.

My original point is that the AGM62 and AGM154 should be in the same category of weapon, because they are both glide bombs.

Agreed!

No they should be diffrent because the USA does it that way.

No they should be diffrent because the USA does it that way.

They do what exactly? They're both designated as Air to Ground Missiles (AGM).

Can you shoot the Walleye down with an A/A missile or a SAM? In DCS you can shoot at missilies, but not at bombs.

If it isn't possible because of it's bomb designation it should be moved to the missile category to make it "downshootable" like a JSOW or BK90.