Hummingbird Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 So after watching the latest videos on the F-14 posted by MagzTV amongst others, I have come to the conclusion that the F-14 is going to be a bit more rudder dependant than I initially anticipated. Thus the all important question now becomes: What are the best BANG for the BUCK pedals out there atm?, and preferably ones that don't take up too much space (the sole reason I haven't had pedals for a while now) I'm sure the answers to this question will be most useful to a lot of upcoming cat drivers out there :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel_108 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) if space is your main concern I would suggest the VKB pedals, they are very compact as pedals go. You won't have toe brakes, so you'd have to map a braking button on your HOTAS. However, the precision and feel is superb for the price and they will last for an eternity as the design is very simple and it's a quality product. Edited January 6, 2019 by Manuel_108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kariyann71 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I like my Thrustmaster TFRP. Not expensive, precise and compact. Corei7 2600K 4.4Ghz OC - NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti 11Gb - 16 Gb DDR3 HP Reverb PRO HMD - Thrusmaster TWCS + TopGun Stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Henry Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 VKB pedals if you don't need toe brakes. MFG Crosswinds if you prefer to have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLightning Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I like my Thrustmaster TFRP. Not expensive, precise and compact. I have them, too and they are my first pedals. I've used them for only some hours and so far they are satisfying to me: I keep their rubber pads clean and they don't slip when I press/push the pedals, they are precise and accurate, they slide smoothly. They are included in my FCS Flight Pack with throttle and stick. Mine are connected to the TWCS throttle via an RJ12 cable and the throttle is connected to the computer via USB, but I've seen an unboxing video in which they show an included RJ12→USB adapter for the pedals bought independently. Planes: FC3, Spitfire, Harrier, F-14, F-18, MiG-21, Edge 540 - Helicopters: UH-1H, Mi-8 - Environments: Persian Gulf, Supercarrier PC specs in the spoiler I run DCS 2.7 using: MasterWatt 550 semi-fanless and semi-modular, core i7-3770 (4 cores @ 3.8 GHz) with 8 GB DDR3, GTX1050 Ti (768 cores @ 1.8 GHz) with 4 GB GDDR5, 5.1 sound card, 240 GB SSD, Windows 8.1, T.16000M FCS Flight Pack (i. e. stick+throttle+rudder pedals), opentrack head trakcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus-6 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Depends on what, exactly, you're looking for. I use these: http://www.saitek.com/uk/blog/index.php/pro-flight-com They're heavy, but have held up very well after years of use. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Can't pretend fly as well as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 MFG Crosswinds, if you look for bang for the bucks. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bC3660 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 MFG Crosswinds, if you look for bang for the bucks. +++++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower793 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 +1 for Crosswinds and you also get great customer support:thumbup: Windows 11 Home ¦ Z790 AORUS Elite AX motherboard ¦ i7-13700K ¦ 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 memory @ 5600MHz ¦ Samsung 990 Pro 1TB SSD for OS, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD for DCS ¦ MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB ¦ Virpil WarBRD base with VFX grip, Thrustmaster A10c and F/A-18 grips ¦ VKB Gunfighter Mk4 and MCG Pro ¦ Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle ¦ VKB STECS Throttle ¦ Virpil TCS rotor base with Shark and AH-64D grips ¦ MFG Crosswinds ¦ Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box ¦ Pimax Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 MFG Crosswinds, if you look for bang for the bucks. I have a pair and like them. They aren't small though, so might not work for the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdstrike Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) crosswinds...i cant speak for thrustmaster or other high end pedals...but only because i dont even think about purchasing them...the crosswinds are just awesome. and yes, Milan has the best customer support i have ever experienced too! i purchased the f-14 because...well its an f-14...i always liked the looks of it since i was a kid... im not into jets and my usual business are the prop birds, but since i saw the videos that are popping up on youtube, i get more and more eager to actually really fly that bird, exactly for the reason of finally having a bird where rudder seems to make a difference. at least from the looks of it, it seems that heatblur finally got rudder effects right. really looking forward to see whether my assumption is correct. Edited January 7, 2019 by birdstrike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Best consumer grade pedals? Slaw RX Vipers Best consumer value? MFG Crosswinds Somewhere in the middle? Thrustmasters Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I have a pair and like them. They aren't small though, so might not work for the OP.There is an optional adjustment olate, that allows to put the pedals closer together. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 There is an optional adjustment olate, that allows to put the pedals closer together. Ah yeah, I mean the OP doesn't specify how big is too big - but even with those plates it'll still be a fair bit wider than a Cessna style set of pedals, that's all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Ah yeah, I mean the OP doesn't specify how big is too big - but even with those plates it'll still be a fair bit wider than a Cessna style set of pedals, that's all I'm saying.I recommend to look at the adjustment videos and stuff on the MFG homepage. There is a spec sheet at the bottom, unfortunately only the standard wide measure is shown (49 cm something). Should be around 40 can give or take, with the adjustment plates. https://mfg.simundza.com/downloads Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Those adjustment plates only take 50mm off the width. Seriously I'm just trying to help by pointing out they're quite wide, what's the matter with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zohwboe Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Depends on your budget. Crosswinds come at $300 USD. VKB about $250 USD. The Thrustmaster TPR is a ridiculous $700. Because not everyone who sims is a retired pensioner I would also recommend the Thrustmaster T.Flight Rudder Pedals. Cheapest on the market ($70 USD) and for the price you pay, they outclass everything else in the same range. 13.5" by 12" (LxW). Just be aware they are very narrow (which might help you space wise) so if you place your feet directly centered to each pedal you might end up crushing your balls every now and then. The workaround is simple though. Great option if you're on a budget, otherwise I haven't heard anything bad about crosswinds, albeit I can't comment on them personally. Edited January 7, 2019 by Zohwboe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Those adjustment plates only take 50mm off the width. Hmm, I had measured the width between the screwholes. Seriously I'm just trying to help by pointing out they're quite wide, what's the matter with you? What should be the matter??? I just linked to the spec sheet with the measurements and recommended he should take a look for himself to see if the MFG "fit"... and the spec sheet is a bit buried on the page. :dunno: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 another +1 for the Crosswinds. I upgraded to them a couple years ago, after flying with the Saitek Combat Rudder pedals prior. Quite a step up. Solid, precise, and well built and supported. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengou Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I can vouch for the VKB pedals, got them for about $200 USD. I got them for Helos and they feel great for that, but work well for planes too of course. It's not too hard with Joystick Gremlin to set up a toe brake axis that you can use with a modifier in DCS. They are all metal, feel really well made and precise, and have fairly low resistance (but this can be changed with alternate springs). Also comes with a very small center detent that can be removed by changing cams. I have everything on default and it has easy movement and a noticeable center bump that does not slow movement through it. Great product. Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicatt Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Also comes with a very small center detent that can be removed by changing cams. I have everything on default and it has easy movement and a noticeable center bump that does not slow movement through it. Great product. I have the Thrustmaster Elite pedals and had them longer than I care to think about, at the same time I got the TM. FLCS/TQS to make a set. Much later I got the TM. Cougar but the elite pedals are heavy with a strong detent, the springs in them are strong enough that you can push your chair back without moving the pedal. Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Even for ~ $300, I'd say the Crosswinds are great bang for the buck. They have all the features needed and are made for eternity plus you'll have the support in case something goes south. Before that I had the Simpeds, but the simple ones without toe brakes, which was the reason for me to get new ones. This really is something worth saving up for as you don't buy new ones every 2 or 3 years. The only con that I've noticed is that you can't step on one pedal after the other without the whole thing flipping over, but that can be solved either by putting on both feet at the same time or attaching them to a simple (wooden) baseplate with some rubber feet or any other contraption that prevents the whole thing from sliding around. They are relatively wide though, but IMHO this is more comfortable as well. They're ~52cm / 20.5" with the pedal plates tilted to the sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgie79 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I can vouch for the VKB pedals, got them for about $200 USD. I got them for Helos and they feel great for that, but work well for planes too of course. It's not too hard with Joystick Gremlin to set up a toe brake axis that you can use with a modifier in DCS. They are all metal, feel really well made and precise, and have fairly low resistance (but this can be changed with alternate springs). Also comes with a very small center detent that can be removed by changing cams. I have everything on default and it has easy movement and a noticeable center bump that does not slow movement through it. Great product. Same here. Great pedals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartagnan Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 TPR Pendlum Rudder and F-14 Well I'm very pleased with the game accept I can not map my Thrustmaster TPR Pendulum Rudder System to the F-14. I have to use the coolie switch on my HOTAS WARTHOG for my rudder and brakes. Is there anyone out there with the same problem that maybe using the TPR Pendlum Rudder System. It's very disturbing to me that I have one of the most expensive rudder systems out there and I can't use it. Is there anyone that can help me? Thanks in advance.:joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightie Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I was using the Thrustmaster ones they were great for the price, very compact too. I managed to find a pair of Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals so am now using them. They're very sturdy and precise too. If you're in the UK and interested OP my T Flight are on ebay atm. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F333113895964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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