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Nothing on their youtube channel yet.

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Well, I mean, no point making a video if there is nothing to talk about... Nothing has been happening except the release of the MiG-19, which is covered in enough videos I think.

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Well, I mean, no point making a video if there is nothing to talk about... Nothing has been happening except the release of the MiG-19, which is covered in enough videos I think.

 

Yeah sure, but since the November update we only had a 12 minutes video update and won't have one until April 2019 at best. At this point Razbam should rename the video series and avoid to use a "monthly update" reference.

 

Razbam has currently 16 people working on different projects and each aircraft released has its own coder according to Decoy. If that so how have we seen so little functionnal updates on the Mirage systems (don't know the Harrier status) in the last few months ? We supported Razbam by purchasing one or various modules, I think we deserve a little more than a 12 minutes video update in four months.

 

I want to believe™ the team has put some heavy work on the Mirage since October/November 2018 and this is exactly what I was expecting to aknowledge on this January/February update. They let us down, once more.

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16 people, lol.

I personally don't think we deserve a video, we didn't pay for "monthly" updates.

We paid for a high fidelity module for a high fidelity flight sim. We didn't get it, and for some reason common business to customer good practices don't seem to apply here.

 

So, pretend you lost your wallet and stick to 3rd parties with a better track record from now on (if you can find any).

Posting, complaining, reporting bugs and such will at best give you nothing, and at worst grant you a deleted thread/post or get you banned. Don't bother. There's a forum chock-full of bug reports, enough to keep any 16-people team busy for a while.

 

My real gripe is that legendary airframes (such as the Harrier and MiG-21) are never gonna be faithfully represented in DCS, because licenses have been "spent" with 3rd parties who bit far more than they could chew.

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Yeah sure, but since the November update we only had a 12 minutes video update and won't have one until April 2019 at best. At this point Razbam should rename the video series and avoid to use a "monthly update" reference.

 

Razbam has currently 16 people working on different projects and each aircraft released has its own coder according to Decoy. If that so how have we seen so little functionnal updates on the Mirage systems (don't know the Harrier status) in the last few months ? We supported Razbam by purchasing one or various modules, I think we deserve a little more than a 12 minutes video update in four months.

 

I want to believe™ the team has put some heavy work on the Mirage since October/November 2018 and this is exactly what I was expecting to aknowledge on this January/February update. They let us down, once more.

 

 

 

Hi, just to Clarify i NEVER said each module has its own coder so please refrain from inaccurate facts

 

 

This month has been extremely busy for me, with personal aspects effecting the ability to make the video, the videos are something i decided to do to give the community an insight into the Razbam Team, however i will do so without pressure from the community or they will simply stop.



 

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This month has been extremely busy for me, with personal aspects effecting the ability to make the video, the videos are something i decided to do to give the community an insight into the Razbam Team, however i will do so without pressure from the community or they will simply stop.

 

 

 

That's understandable. IMO the videos are really not all that necesary, a well kept changelog and list of missing / planned features would be much better than monthly videos.

Besides, nobody would be desperately waiting for video updates in search for a hope, if they were happy with their purchase. And that's the real point here.

You've been trying to fill the gaps in lieu of Razbams lack of progress (which is commendable) and now the heat is on you, but it really shouldn't...surely not because of video updates ;)

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Hi, just to Clarify i NEVER said each module has its own coder so please refrain from inaccurate facts

 

 

This month has been extremely busy for me, with personal aspects effecting the ability to make the video, the videos are something i decided to do to give the community an insight into the Razbam Team, however i will do so without pressure from the community or they will simply stop.

No Worries Sir,Hope everything is ok with you and your family,Cheers!!

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Hi, just to Clarify i NEVER said each module has its own coder so please refrain from inaccurate facts […]

 

Hello Decoy,

 

I quote, from your January update at the 5'44 mark :

 

 

So what I mean by that is obviously we have three coders' date=' there's a coder for each aircraft[…']

 

Did I missed something ? Did I really spread false information or did I just relay information you actually provided ?

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Hello Decoy,

 

I quote, from your January update at the 5'44 mark :

 

 

 

 

Did I missed something ? Did I really spread false information or did I just relay information you actually provided ?

 

 

 

We have three coders with 3 modules out. But working on many more.

 

Apologies I mis understood what you ment. my bad


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So what I mean by that is obviously we have three coders, there's a coder for each aircraft[…]

[...]

We have three coders with 3 modules out.

 

Would you be so kind to name them or give us anymore info?

 

In the manual of the Mirage and also the Mig19 are Zeus67 (for avionics) and CptSmiley (for flight model) named. No name in the Harrier manual.

On the Razbam homepage, there are also only these two persons (again for Zeus67 for avionics and CptSmiley for flight model) named as coders.

So, according this info and systemwise, you only have one coder for a bugged and incomplete released aircraft, a castastrophical bugged early access aircraft and one fresh released early access aircraft.

 

So I'm wondering how this fits with what you are saying?

Which coder(s) is working now on the Mirage?

Which coder(s) is working now on the Harrier?

Which coder(s) just did the Mig19 and is working now on it?

 

If you don't want to give an appropiate answer, then I must assume that I already know it.


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Would you be so kind to name them or give us anymore info?

 

In the manual of the Mirage and also the Mig19 are Zeus67 (for avionics) and CptSmiley (for flight model) named. No name in the Harrier manual.

On the Razbam homepage, there are also only these two persons (again for Zeus67 for avionics and CptSmiley for flight model) named as coders.

So, according this info and systemwise, you only have one coder for a bugged and incomplete released aircraft, a castastrophical bugged early access aircraft and one fresh released early access aircraft.

 

So I'm wondering how this fits with what you are saying?

Which coder(s) is working now on the Mirage?

Which coder(s) is working now on the Harrier?

Which coder(s) just did the Mig19 and is working now on it?

 

If you don't want to give an appropiate answer, then I must assume that I already know it.

 

Viper although I share you're frustration such aggressiveness is not going to make them forth coming. They have said on their discord though that "Tobbe" is their dedicated Harrier debugger.

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If you don't want to give an appropiate answer, then I must assume that I already know it.

 

I was referring to this section as far as aggressiveness, and I didn't mean to be critical but you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Your saying answer me or I'll assume the worst. From what I've seen they ignore statements like that, because if they were to answer it only encourages others. And I wasn;t saying you should be on discord, just letting you know what they have said there. :thumbup:

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Viper although I share you're frustration such aggressiveness is not going to make them forth coming. They have said on their discord though that "Tobbe" is their dedicated Harrier debugger.

 

I think I was the one that asked on Discord, and he's the "dedicated" harrier guy, maybe not just debugger.

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May I dare to say that RAZBAM's development speed, though perhaps the Harrier was released prematurely, has been comparatively breakneck speed compared to any other developer but Belsimtek (although goodnight sweet prince to that one).

I've lost count of how many years the F-18 and F-14 have been in the making, both by developers with unfinished/in desperate need of repair modules.

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I could not care less about others developpers, that's not the point of this discussion. I own a Razbam module and I expect only excellence from the people working on the project I chose to support.

 

If someone at your job is mediocre, are you going to set the bar at his level or do you have enough respect for yourself to give the absolute best you can provide ? Rethorical question of course.

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In real life,

 

For a mechanic, he must spend a year in school (minimum!) to learn the general information about :

 

Aerodynamics

The mechanics of flight

engines (jet, turboprop, etc.)

Flight controls

The braking process

the landers

Fuel systems

The hydraulic circuits

Non-destructive testing

The generalities aircraft

Technical and logistical management

Embedded systems

The oxygen function

The pressurization

air conditioning

Armament (the bases)

Electricity

aeronautical materials

Aircraft easements

etc...

 

Just after, he arrives in a unit, and there he will learn that he knows nothing! he leaves for a minimum of 1 to 2 months of training on the aircraft in question and then he will be sponsored by the elders and after a few years, he will be considered as "dropped" on a machine only.

 

And I'm not talking about avionics, electricians, armourers, servitudes or even pilots.....

 

There, you have a French plane, with few documentation, software engineers who are not specialists, aeronautical maintenance personnel and even less combat pilots.

 

They must translate into their languages, learn, understand (understand each other), interpret and adjust and then translate into computer language from scratch. (and go ahead with French logic.......)

 

Not long ago, they met a fighter squadron from the French Air Force (it's quite exceptional) who introduced them, explained and asked them a lot of information about the Mirage.

 

As a result, their understanding of it was necessarily turned upside down!

 

And you seriously and sincerely believe that in a few months they will correct you all this!??

 

Come back to earth, enjoy what you already have and be patient, it will happen!

 

 

My two cents...

(And as an old FalconBMS driver i was, 3-4 weeks, doesn't matter)

 

 

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The best way to calm this neverending storm, would be the Razbam's boss himself honestly explains us the sources of his company's issues.

 

Honestly or nothing.

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And you seriously and sincerely believe that in a few months they will correct you all this!??

 

Come back to earth, enjoy what you already have and be patient, it will happen!

 

Do I think they could do it in a couple of months ? Of course I don't.

 

I can only imagine how difficult it is to code all this stuff into DCS. What I am saying for a few weeks now is that Razbam keep working on new modules when they have so much to do on the ones already released with very limited ressources. You cannot hope to finalize an already three years old module with only one system coder when he has to work on the Mirage, the Harrier, the MiG-19 and all the upcoming modules in the queue line. Razbam is just proving that it cannot be done, it's not a one man job and I sincerely feel bad for him to have to deal with this situation.

 

Decoy stated that Razbam has one coder for each released module. Questions were asked to clarify his statement a few days ago ; at this time we did not hear from him.

 

I do enjoy the Mirage as surprising as it can be for some of you. And this is because I deeply care about this plane that I'm following its development process. I said it multiple times but I only own the Mirage and fly her daily ; this is why I'm feeling constrained by the module limitations and bugs. At this time I cannot engage in very complex missions because of some systems lacking in functionnality or behavior.

 

I know for a fact that some of the MLO updates informations had already been provided way before the FAF deal was made by a very knowledgable Mirage 2000 person, his comments has been ignored. I also know that some users are sending very detailed reports of malfunctions or incorrect systems behavior to Decoy for months and that he does not reply to these reports. This is the work of several hundreds hours of flight on the Mirage that are just being ignored for unknown reasons.

 

You'll find some screenshots of a document I just found yesterday and sent to Decoy several months ago. That's clearly not your average report.

 

I love the Mirage being flyable in DCS, I love the fact that Razbam got the courage to develop a baguette plane, I definitely love their deal with the FAF. I only have a simple request : finish the job in a timely manner while respecting the promises you made to your loyal customers.

 

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