Catweedle Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Greetings, I have noticed that the Cobra, which the enyclopedia specifies as being protected against <=7.62 caliber, is somewhat invulnerable to the Mi-8's UPK 23mm HE. I also conducted a test with the Marder 20mm cannon (HE) against the Cobra. Hitting the same spots/sides of the Cobra, and depending on the angle of impact, the projectiles do no damage at all. AP rounds do not share this behaviour. I have attached a track demonstrating the issue. (openbeta 2.5.6.54046)cobra_armor_test.trk Edited September 11, 2020 by Catweedle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Probably a similar issue with all HE rounds being set in such a way that they don't have any penetration, or very low one and thus can't damage vehicles 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweedle Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 That's not the issue here -- the 20mm can destroy the Cobra just fine, sometimes, and sometimes not. Watch the track and judge again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweedle Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 It's actually the same issue that I reported wrt. some artillery units. It got fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The damage system isn't always all that realistic or good, for many vehicles... a point system that made things simple and easier for older slower processors IMO. But, this system is listed as one to be getting a major overhaul sometime over the next year or two, to something more relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweedle Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Rick50, I know that the damage and armor modelling needs a general overhaul. In this case it is a bug, and it is the same type of anomaly that I reported and that has been fixed here. Has any of you two actually watched the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Again, what I've been told is that they have specific (HE rounds) penetration values, which for some rounds to extremely low, so that is why they cannot do damage, if no penetration... no damage. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=268473 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=267670 I've reported similar issues before as well, but all I got is *It has this amount of penetration and vehicles has more armor than that* Which is an empty answer, because something definitely needs fixing 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweedle Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 If you want do discuss this bug, refer to the track and explain what that has to do with non-AP capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 14, 2020 ED Team Share Posted September 14, 2020 I will have the team take a look at angled armour on these units. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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