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Hi,

 

The aircraft is equiped with AGM-65E and LGB-12.

 

If I fire the MAV first, the LGB completely the target (see screenshot, the LGB if dropped just over the target!).

 

If I drop the LGB first, the MAV will completely missed the target as well.

 

For each attack, I have reset the TGP and undesignate the target.

 

Any idea about the problem ?

 

Thanks.

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You have a DUD cue in the HUD, that tells me that something wasn't set up correctly in the Stores page. Do you have a track file?

 

Sometimes I've seen LGB laser codes getting cleared out after firing Mavericks.

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Hi,

 

The DUD cue appears because the flight path is slightly under the level flight. This is a bug, apparently know. See this video

 

I double check the laser code, and it was the same and currently used.

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You sure about that? Fired off a Laser Maverick, hit a target, undesignated, new target, redesignated, switched to GBU-12, and no DUD with the launch cue. LGB tracked and hit another target just fine. All targets were designated only with the TGP, WPDSG was not used.

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No issues with LMAVs and GBU-12s for me. The DUD bug is probably related to that https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=247779

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You sure about that?

 

Yes, I am!

 

I try again at lower altitude (18000ft instead of 24000feet) and now the LGB does react to the laser point. This should the high altitude laser bug, but also the AUTO bomb to Lightening marked target depends on elev of selected WP.

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Elevation of a selected waypoint would only matter if you were designating a waypoint for weapon release cues. If you're designating with the targeting pod that shouldn't be an issue.

 

I'll look again at higher altitudes, but I've never had a problem with LGBs in that way. Regardless, still no issues for me with LMAVs and LGBs.


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Elevation of a selected waypoint would only matter if you were designating a waypoint for weapon release cues. If you're designating with the targeting pod that shouldn't be an issue.
It's a current bug. The AUTO cue will calculate based on the elevation of the currently selected waypoint, even if you don't use WPDSG and you designate a target with the TGP

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Interesting, has anyone determined at which altitude at which the problem manifests?
I guess at any altitude. If your selected waypoint's elevation is above the ground elevation of your target, the AUTO cue is going to be off.

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Why would you need a combination of both anyway? if my mission is to take out a target that can potentially fire back at me I'd take it out with AGM 65F's first to suppress the air defenses and then use MK82's CCIP to destroy the rest. Less weapons management that way. What you're trying to do is manage both systems one after another as you're closing in on a target which is fine..... If it can't fire back at you but if it can then it's too much. I'm not even sure a real pilot would choose that combo of ordnance just to keep the workload to a minimum.

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Maybe check out some actual deployment photos before arguing that. Plenty of evidence of F-18s packing combinations of smart bombs and Mavericks in one loadout.

 

Maybe read what I posted before assuming I'm stating a fact. I said; "I'm not even sure" not; "I definitely know"

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Why would you need a combination of both anyway? if my mission is to take out a target that can potentially fire back at me I'd take it out with AGM 65F's first to suppress the air defenses and then use MK82's CCIP to destroy the rest. Less weapons management that way. What you're trying to do is manage both systems one after another as you're closing in on a target which is fine..... If it can't fire back at you but if it can then it's too much. I'm not even sure a real pilot would choose that combo of ordnance just to keep the workload to a minimum.

Uhm, I also like that loadout, especially if I'm going into a target area with both RDR and IR SAMs, so that I can kill the RDR SAM using the AGM-65 and then go ahead and kill the IR SAMs using LGBs.

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probably the same reason these guys do,

 

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Now that's some flexibility. I recently heard them discuss these types of load-outs on the Fighter Pilot Podcast. This would be a typical load-out on operations in Afganistan. They go into some detail as to why and it makes perfect sense.

 

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The real question is, do you want to disable your TGP HOTAS commands or not? As soon as you just bring the Mavs you do.

I believe as soon as you select the mavs you do. As far as I know you can find and designate a target before selecting the maverick and HOTAS commands will work fine. A bit counter intuitive, why the Navy would have it setup this way is another question.

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Just use LMAV.. I doubt Infrared mavericks get much use unless it's for light anti-shipping.

I believe it works the same with the LMAV at the moment. There is some discussion as to whether that should be the case but I don't believe it has been changed yet unfortunately.

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MAV or LGB, we have to choose !

 

Hi,

 

 

 

The aircraft is equiped with AGM-65E and LGB-12.

 

 

 

If I fire the MAV first, the LGB completely the target (see screenshot, the LGB if dropped just over the target!).

 

 

 

If I drop the LGB first, the MAV will completely missed the target as well.

 

 

 

For each attack, I have reset the TGP and undesignate the target.

 

 

 

Any idea about the problem ?

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Try doing everything the same as you did when you got these pictures -

 

EXCEPT PRIOR to finding and designating your target with the Tpod - uncheck the waypoint OSB on your AMPCD (lower/middle sceeen) so W4 is no longer shown on your HUD.

 

After finding your target and designating it with the TDC depress, it should then show range to target (rather than range to waypoint). Should be able to get LGBs onto your intended target by doing those two things different.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

 

 

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MAV or LGB, we have to choose !

 

Disregard. I was wrong.

 

 

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