drPhibes Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Ok, first you'll have to fire up your favorite text editor (Notepad++ in my case), and find the beacons.lua for the terrain where you want to add the beacon. The file are located in \DCS World\Mods\terrains\[terrain name] Note: this procedure only works when adding ICLS beacons to runways which already have regular ILS. If doing it from scratch, you'll need to find all coordinates etc. manually. Find the airport where you want to add the beacon (in my case, Bandar Abbas). Make a note of the beacon ID (Bandar Abbas: beaconId = 'airfield2_[x]'), and scroll down to the two ILS beacons. { display_name = _(''); beaconId = 'airfield2_2'; type = BEACON_TYPE_ILS_LOCALIZER; callsign = 'IBND'; frequency = 109900000.000000; position = { 113693.234375, 5.776140, 13155.006836 }; direction = 28.001016; positionGeo = { latitude = 27.198926, longitude = 56.367930 }; sceneObjects = {'t:197885952'}; chartOffsetX = 4544.000000; }; { display_name = _(''); beaconId = 'airfield2_3'; type = BEACON_TYPE_ILS_GLIDESLOPE; callsign = 'IBND'; frequency = 109900000.000000; position = { 116974.781250, 5.880138, 14981.854492 }; direction = 26.337865; positionGeo = { latitude = 27.228633, longitude = 56.386212 }; sceneObjects = {'t:-1265303495'}; }; Copy the text (to a new file, or just insert it after the last beacon for the selected airport), and increment the minor number of the beaconIDs to the next available numbers. For Bandar Abbas that would be beaconId = 'airfield2_4'; (LOC) and 5 (GS). Replace the "ILS" in the beacon type with "ICLS": type = BEACON_TYPE_ICLS_LOCALIZER; and type = BEACON_TYPE_ICLS_GLIDESLOPE;Frequncies/channels: Find a channel/frequency from the list below, and replace the old ILS frequency with the new ICLS freq. The same frequency is used for both LOC and GS. Add a line below the frequency with the corresponding channel number. Channel: Frequency: 1 15415000000 2 15445000000 3 15475000000 4 15505000000 5 15535000000 6 15565000000 7 15595000000 8 15625000000 9 15655000000 10 15685000000 11 15415000000 12 15445000000 13 15475000000 14 15505000000 15 15535000000 16 15565000000 17 15595000000 18 15625000000 19 15655000000 20 15685000000 or just run the following through your favorite lua interpreter: for channel =1, 20, 1 do x= 15415000000 + 30000000 * ((channel - 1) % 10) print(channel, '\t', x, '\n') end For those who prefer to copy and paste, here is my test setup (with all changes from default in bold): -- ICLS test: { display_name = _(''); beaconId = 'airfield2_[b]4[/b]'; type = BEACON_TYPE_I[b]C[/b]LS_LOCALIZER; callsign = '[b]TST[/b]'; frequency = [b]15415000000[/b].000000; [b]channel = 1;[/b] position = { 113693.234375, 5.776140, 13155.006836 }; direction = 28.001016; positionGeo = { latitude = 27.198926, longitude = 56.367930 }; sceneObjects = {'t:197885952'}; chartOffsetX = 4544.000000; }; { display_name = _(''); beaconId = 'airfield2_[b]5[/b]'; type = BEACON_TYPE_I[b]C[/b]LS_GLIDESLOPE; callsign = '[b]TST[/b]'; frequency = [b]15415000000[/b].000000; [b]channel = 1;[/b] position = { 116974.781250, 5.880138, 14981.854492 }; direction = 26.337865; positionGeo = { latitude = 27.228633, longitude = 56.386212 }; sceneObjects = {'t:-1265303495'}; }; -- end of test Note: I have only tested channel 1 at Bandar Abbas so far. YMMV. Make sure you set the wind direction in the ME so that the ICLS equipped runway is active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower793 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Thanks - will try this later Windows 11 Home ¦ Z790 AORUS Elite AX motherboard ¦ i7-13700K ¦ 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 memory @ 5600MHz ¦ Samsung 990 Pro 1TB SSD for OS, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD for DCS ¦ MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB ¦ Virpil WarBRD base with VFX grip, Thrustmaster A10c and F/A-18 grips ¦ VKB Gunfighter Mk4 and MCG Pro ¦ Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle ¦ VKB STECS Throttle ¦ Virpil TCS rotor base with Shark and AH-64D grips ¦ MFG Crosswinds ¦ Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box ¦ Pimax Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Thanx a lot. Will try to apply this mod ASAP :) i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spathiphyllum Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Well, if you love challenges, the F/A-18 is perfect for you! Flying an ILS approach is the easiest (and rather boring) form to get to the ground in bad weather. A non precision approach like NDB or VOR/TACAN approach is challenging. It's for sure more satisfying to drop out of the clouds at 300ft after a successful non-precision approach, than simply riding down to 200ft on the glideslope without the need for timing, distance, speed and vert speed checking. As has been demonstrated IRL (with sometimes questionable outcome), nobody can keep you from continuing a non-precision approach well below minimum. This makes a non-precision approach even more challenging ;) Initially I was frustrated with the F-5 because it doesn't have an ILS either, but I quickly re-discovered how satisfying a non-precision approach is...at least in the sim. I have to admit that IRL I prefer the 'easy' way. ;) Btw. I'm simming since the Commodore VIC 20 times, I'm flying IRL much longer than this and I don't know how BST and ED did it, but their F/A-18 is the most immersive airplane I ever came across in any sim. Extremely impressive. I've never enjoyed FLYING in a sim that much before. The combination of superb graphics, sounds and the Hornets high alpha capability is simply unmatched :) PS: Not even CATIIIB means zero visibility. You are right but it has nothing to do with the lack of ILS. Sure one can "break the rules" and carry out a non precision approach when a precision approach is required and sure it is a lot of fun and yes, landing on a carrier is cool but I was talking about the lack of ILS. I want to carry out precision approaches onto conventional runways, not boats. At least, not always. And it's a pity ED won't implement optional ILS capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 And it's a pity ED won't implement optional ILS capability. The point I'm trying to make is, that the lack of a conventional ILS (did you read the post from drPhibes?) shouldn't keep you from flying this magnificent add on :) i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doldi1989web.de Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Thats right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vali_grad Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging. Su34 & F111 a dream fullfilled in fsx...[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i5 5600, 1050ti, 16 GVram, win10 , TM W hotas&rudder, waiting for 1060/1070 price fall or a new gpu family..f*&9 miners :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrusty Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging. Eh... that's still boring, I do a vertical break... day and night, all weather. Roll into the groove from split-S... heck, on a good day I can catch 3 wire from a pirouette break:music_whistling: You want video? I didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSS_Sniper Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging. Flying in perfect weather is boring and something tells me you've never actually flown an ILS. I9 9900k @ 5ghz water cooled, 32gb ram, GTX 2080ti, 1tb M.2, 2tb hdd, 1000 watt psu TrackIR 5, TM Warthog Stick and Throttle, CH Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David OC Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging. I'm guessing you don't generally use approach charts?:) IRL you cannot do an overhead brake at every airport, try following proper IRL procedures in IMC can be a good challenge! If or when ED adds civi AI aircraft in? yes, just like those other sims, you might just have to call tower and fly the approach plate.:cry: i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 ... something tells me you've never actually flown an ILS. The only time an ILS approach isn't boring is when it's tied to a circling approach ;) i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spathiphyllum Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 For me a low visibility ILS approach is always exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Flying in perfect weather is boring and something tells me you've never actually flown an ILS. Who asked you? Are you actually capable of posting without patronising people and bringing up your RW experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory205 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Who asked you? Are you actually capable of posting without patronising people and bringing up your RW experience? Interesting. Viewpoints are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUSTY Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging. Who asked you? Are you actually capable of posting without patronising people and bringing up your RW experience? Flying in perfect weather is boring and something tells me you've never actually flown an ILS. Everyone is entitled to their preference and regardless of whether you think an Instrument approach is 'boring' or not - there are members of the community who enjoy flying missions in adverse weather conditions while using realistic and appropriate procedures to recover to an airfield. I for example enjoy simulating USMC and RAAF hornet ops so my squadron mates and I would appreciate the ability to shoot a pairs ILS approach in crappy weather. ILS approaches to land bases can be quite a challenge when executed in poor weather. F-15E | AH-64 | F/A-18C | F-14B | A-10C | UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2 | Ka-50 | SA342 | Super Carrier | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Syria | Intel Core i7 11700K - 32GB 3200MHz CL16 DDR4 - MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming X 12GB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe SSD 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vali_grad Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 slow down gang ! :))) @Gripes323...yea, you're funny ! satisfied ?:)) @BSS_Sniper nope, not even close ! flown almost any type of aircraft built in fsx/xplane10&11/dcs that has ILS compatible systems, did not try inverted though I must admit :) not that hard to look for/insert freqs :))) I did not say I hate it, just its boring in a fast paced, combat environment :) I love it in civilian sims though, because safety is top priority :) still ils/cat is a luxury in most parts of the world ... ndb is your lucky bet @David OC , I kinda stopped using charts when xp11 went live, miss the fsx atc ... yes you can build your missions in dcs and follow only IFR rules to the letter, but for me the lack of a decent ATC, combat environment, lack of time .. can't start everytime from cold, respecting charts/plates and being showdown my a sam/aaa in the mission {play most cas role}..tried, tastes bitter :))) its your time & its your business what you do with it ! peace :) Su34 & F111 a dream fullfilled in fsx...[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i5 5600, 1050ti, 16 GVram, win10 , TM W hotas&rudder, waiting for 1060/1070 price fall or a new gpu family..f*&9 miners :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vali_grad Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Everyone is entitled to their preference and regardless of whether you think an Instrument approach is 'boring' or not - there are members of the community who enjoy flying missions in adverse weather conditions while using realistic and appropriate procedures to recover to an airfield. I for example enjoy simulating USMC and RAAF hornet ops so my squadron mates and I would appreciate the ability to shoot a pairs ILS approach in crappy weather. ILS approaches to land bases can be quite a challenge when executed in poor weather. yea, but you wont hurt any enemy in those conditions :) I agree the harsh weather is challenging to say at least :pilotfly: Su34 & F111 a dream fullfilled in fsx...[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i5 5600, 1050ti, 16 GVram, win10 , TM W hotas&rudder, waiting for 1060/1070 price fall or a new gpu family..f*&9 miners :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUSTY Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 yea, but you wont hurt any enemy in those conditions :) I agree the harsh weather is challenging to say at least :pilotfly: Speak for yourself :D F-15E | AH-64 | F/A-18C | F-14B | A-10C | UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2 | Ka-50 | SA342 | Super Carrier | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Syria | Intel Core i7 11700K - 32GB 3200MHz CL16 DDR4 - MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming X 12GB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe SSD 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backy 51 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Great find drPhibes! Here's a quick Groom Lake ICLS for Rwy 32. CRS 324 ID "UFO" CH 13 Enjoy!ICLS Modded Beacons file.zip I don't need no stinkin' GPS! (except for PGMs :D) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernst Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Ok, first you'll have to fire up your favorite text editor (Notepad++ in my case), and find the beacons.lua for the terrain where you want to add the beacon. The file are located in \DCS World\Mods\terrains\[terrain name] Thanks, drPhibes, your simple modification gives highly useful results. Maybe a stupid question, in your first post concerning ICLS to ILS you said: "If anyone is interested, I can post a short "how to"-guide (NOTE: Not IC compatible)." What is "IC" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 What is "IC" ? IC=Integrity Check i.e. the MP check for a clean, unmodded client. i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 In case anyone missed it, my complete(-ish) beaon mod for the PG map is available here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217594 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Soo, if the airport has a tacan channel displayed in the F10 map or ME, are they supposed to work in the Hornet yet? I haven't seen one working channel in the Persian Gulf map yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphamale Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Look the number of the runway, the number of the runway is your course. with a zero added, of course :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Caucasus data sheet: I put this together, you might find it helpful...all the quick info you need for setting up threshold waypoints, tuning into airfield radios, tacan etc. complete package: https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=192008&d=1534205593 Edited August 20, 2018 by fitness88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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