Trondyne

Thanks. No, nothing was installed other than DCS because this was done for DCS... Windows was also "debloated" and lastly network optimized.... After the last few tweaks I find DCS acting slightly different and I am getting onto servers more often, usually servers with low pings, <90, although not often enough... I can't really drag the tower to a wired location (too far) but I am going to continue optimizing this connection... I have tripled the bandwidth or more and reduced latency considerably... I have a couple more changes I am going to make and I think with those I may be able to get performance in a useful range to use DCS, which is proving to be a very finicky app when it comes to network play...

Just got on another server and could have flown.... First time I think ... What hasn't changed is when leaving server and going back to the Servers screen is that all servers disappear... This has been consistent on all builds and must be a bug... Servers are there when going in but all gone when coming back.... Refreshing doesn't help and neither does returning to the main menu and going back to Multiplayer... At that point MP menu no longer works... Is that my "ping swing" too?

I don't think I'm having "wild ping swings" although that sounds fun... I AM running Open Beta as stated in my posts... installed 2 hours ago or so... I will post a string of pings later... I have seen pretty consistent pings <35ms during tests... I don't think 35ms +-10 is much of a swing... If so then it must be built into all the servers and the swing limit must be ridiculously low, like 10ms or something equally absurd...-- I have written TCP network apps and my sense of what is going on is not latency but a comm failure caused by - what - ? Just got on a server after turning off firewall, not sure if that really mattered though... But didn't know what to do with this, see below:

Not at all... I am convinced it is DCS not playing well with this build and hardware config... Again, this is a clean build... DCS can at times see the server(s) and at other times not... However, it always sees the server when asking to connect and then 30 seconds later always cannot... This is rather odd...as if one part of the app can see the server but the other part can't...consistently.... And load times are not long (about 30 seconds) When failing to connect DCS is dead in the water...does not return to any menu and sits there waiting to be killed - that in itself is odd and suggests incomplete implementation of network...

More often than not this is what I see...

Most often it loads fine and then "Please Wait..." until it times out which takes about 15 minutes.. Only the developers know how this app's comm works... Why it should be so inconsistent must be a function of the design... I have no problems with other apps using the internet for communication... I will post images shortly...

This just finished installing 2 hours ago on a clean windows install... System specs above...

My guess is not too many takers because I am on WiFi... This is a clean (new) install of Open Beta downloaded last night... on a clean new Windows install.. AMD 1800X 16GB RAM AMD RX 580 7200 RPM HDD I have written network applications... If my application is installed clean and only intermittently shows servers, and just sits there not trying to connect then I'd want to know why... I realize it works on lots of machines but this is a CLEAN install of Windows and a new install of DCS... DCS is the only app not working correctly... DCS does not report any problems, it's inconsistent and apparently has no ability to self diagnose connection problems... My connection has consistent and low latency with around 10-18 Mbit bandwidth... If DCS can see the server and then tries to connect (Persian Gulf Maps used to crash) why does it just sit there for 15 minutes (doing nothing after loading) and then time out with a failure to connect message which when clicked doesn't even allow the program to resume (it must be killed in task manager) Lots of odd things about this problem that seems to point to incomplete implementation of online IMO...

Did a clean install of Windows ... Upgraded Internet connection... First run only installed F-15C module... No servers visible in list... Refreshed - no servers visible... Exited DCS and reran.... Servers now visible... Attempted to join one server with low ping around 70ms... DCS began to load and HUNG... Had to kill task and Windows said it was reporting "problem to Microsoft"... Reran DCS and clicked Multiplayer and again no servers visible... Refreshed and no servers visible... DCS can't seem to decide if it sees the internet...it flips a coin... I've had it... Too much work too little help with this app... I'll try again in 6 months...

Did upgrades on network connection - increased bandwidth by factor of 4, latency consistent and low... Still no connection possible to ANY servers... All servers show in list but cannot connect to servers even with under 100ms ping... Observed no network traffic after loading completes, there are packets sent and received when "join" is clicked, but when loading is complete there is no communication at all... This must mean something...as DCS is loaded and ready but no communication attempted up or down.... This appears now to be a configuration problem? Why is there no communication attempted after load? On second attempts load time is less than 30 seconds but DCS is just sitting there not sending packets or getting any - that doesn't seem normal.. This computer has no trouble on any other app using internet...

Still no luck getting DCS MP to work... Now using Open Beta, no help... Will attempt new build at some point... Other apps have no problem...

Did some network optimizations and was able to connect again to a server... Still not consistently however... The Persian Gulf Map fails to load when trying to join any server with that map - DCS freezes about 90% through the load process and must be killed in TM. PG map works fine in SP. The other anomaly ever-present is when having either joined a MP server or having played SP and then exiting back to Main Menu and trying to go back into MP that all servers are gone... Only way to get the server list back is to exit DCS and rerun... Lots of issues it seems with MP...

Just reset a bunch of network settings... Got on one server but could not select "role".. Not having much experience getting on a server I don't know if that is "normal" or not... When trying to connect to a Persian Gulf server (recently installed PG Map) the load process FAILS and DCS crashes - second crash so far today... When exiting the server that I did connect to and returning to the Multiplayer screen, no servers would display... Tried exiting the MP menu and going back in several times but no servers would display.. Closed DCS and then ran again go into MP and servers reappear... Lots of fun! Again DCS works fine in Single Player... If I can't get MP to work I will not be buying modules.... Win10 16GB RAM

Tried that.. No help... BTW: This is a WIN 10 Build with latest updates... DCS sees lots of servers with good ping numbers lower than 100 and lower than 75... When trying to connect loads all files and just sits there <please wait> and finally times out sometimes after just a couple of minutes and sometimes after several minutes.. Then after clicking the OK or disconnect button it continues to sit there, doesn't return to the main menu and must be killed by Task Manager - this makes the MP part of DCS appear as an afterthought that isn't even fully implemented. One time it did crash and sent a report again today while trying to connect... Makes no sense to me why it does this... The developers must have some idea why this would happen and MP connect should be capable of reporting connectivity problems..as in why it consistently sees a server and then doesn't connect to it... I will continue trying some other things and as a last resort do a new Windows build.... :|

Not an option, would have done it already... Not a problem with other MP games though...

Okay, so I guess it's a wrap...

Not sure what info is needed here... DCS runs fine in single player... Integrity check pass.. No antivirus... Connected once so far to a single server with latest DCS version as of this date. When going into Single Player first and then trying to go into Multiplayer the server list is empty... Return to main menu and then go back to MP and again no servers shown... Exit DCS, run DCS and go directly to MP and servers show again... Select a server and after loading is 100% <please wait> and wait and wait... When attempting to connect DCS stays in loading screen and appears to be doing nothing much as far as Net traffic goes or anything else - cannot stop connection attempt, Esc anyone? Self diagnosis of some kind would be nice... Almost no packets appear to be coming or going, bandwidth is minimal...and stays in loading until I have to kill the task, say 5-7 minutes max... My connection is wifi, ping on servers trying to connect is less than 100ms ping... For this install MP appears very broken... One crash today loading while trying to connect and report sent... Would be nice to play MP... Thanks...

Would like to see improvement in aircraft module fidelity more closely matching performance of actual aircraft as well as missiles... DCS already seems to have a reputation for accuracy and it would be nice if that could be improved where needed. Also details like gauges matching actual numbers and HUD, etc when possible to be like actual aircraft. And this may seem trivial but I do some game development and I spend a lot of time on trying to get explosions to look good -- For example when planes explode, esp on the ground there could be more of a fireball from fuel, so less smoke ball and more fireball with smoke...

I have to go back and look to be sure but I think I may have been choosing a "Fly Again" or similar option from the Replay menu but I'm unsure if that was always the case... The mission starts again from scratch with me flying, not a replay so I assumed that the system would "understand" that this is now a new mission since, I mean, it is... Then when done I end up back at what I think is the Replay menu and it has the option to Save ... I did but found that the "new" mission saved was the old or mission before that... Now I have left the menu all the way back as far as I could go without exiting DCS and then loading the mission again and this seems to have allowed me to save the newest mission as a track... Jim

Not long ago replay started working again which is great... However when flying a mission (F-15C single player) and then saving the mission the program seems to not know which mission to save or playback... If I fly one mission and then fly another and then try to replay the last mission it will replay the mission before and the latest mission seems to have been forgotten... I am unsure but it may also be mixing up elements from both missions but I have to check... In order to save and playback the correct mission I have to exit the program, although exiting the menu may be enough to clean out what the program plays back... It's important and useful to be able to save each mission or certain missions and not get them mixed up... Thanks...