Aqua_HeaD
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I have now tried the new RTX 3090 TUF with the same hardware as before and the 516.94 Nvidia Driver. No issues at all during the first whole hour that I flew. I also saw that there was an DCS update that downloaded when I started the game so I dont know if that one has something to do with it. Maybe it was the old GPU that was faulty anyway.
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On 12/19/2022 at 5:17 PM, silverdevil said:
@Aqua_HeaD forgive me if this has been suggested and tried. have you tried running debug mode on driver? TUF is a factory OC card. there have been folks having the issue before.
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Thanks but I have tried both to underclock and undervolt that card but I didn’t help. I will bring out a new RTX 3090 TUF today and test it the upcoming days to see if that one will work. If not I will reinstall my OS from Win 11 and revert it back to Win 10 and try it again.
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10 hours ago, Soulres said:
No problem I am just curious as if you ever upgrade this issue will come again and if anyone else has this issue. However seeing as how you're the only one with windows 11, and an outdated version at that. I'm betting something broke with windows and or your copy of DCS. Since those were the 2 things that you never touched that is where my money is at. Windows 11 is notoriously buggy and problematic so thats where my money lies.
I will just add one more thing. Today i had the opportunity to buy an Asus RTX 3090 TUF for a really great price from a reseller with full warranty and also the possibility to try the card and leave it back withing 90 days if I am not pleased with it. It will be interesting to see if I will get the same issues with that one.
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I dont know but I have ssen so many threads all over Internet about crashes where people use the 30xx and 40xx series of GPU´s. I wonder if the problem are just related to those GPU´s since I also had major problem with my 3080.
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11 hours ago, Soulres said:
Huh, that sounds alot like a Nvidia issue...as if you're not removing all of the data from the previous card causing issues, I know someone mentioned that your windows 11 was outofdate, is your Sons PC out of date aswell? Windows 11 is definitly something that NEEDS to be up-to-date as its full of bugs...
I've updated every driver and BIOS to the latest and it still crashed. My son has an updated Win 10 and BIOS, My friend use Win 10. I have sent several log files to Nvidia as well but they cant help me. I have not heard anything from the guy that bought the GPU so I guess it works fine for him.
161222: Flew the same case 1 landing instant session for maybe 1 1/2 hour with my 2080Ti right now without any issues. Driver 516.94 this time. I think we can give up this thread now. We will never know what caused all those crashes before with the 3080. Either it was some driver issues or some problem with the GPU itself. Thanks again all of you that have tried to help me. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all of you out here flying.
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5 hours ago, Soulres said:
Wait so it works if you swap the GPU out?
Yep. I have no problem with my RTX 2080 Ti. My son has some issues in MW2 with all three cards (1080, 2080Ti and 3080) but the RTX 3080 was the one that crashed most. I didn’t think it was the 3080 that was the problem since benchmark and stress tests went fine but I don’t really now. Arma 3 that I play most run without any issues with the 3080. As I wrote before this 3080 worked fine at DCS on my friends PC in VR.
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4 hours ago, Soulres said:
As much as it sucks, doing a clean install (removing all files, Restarting your pc, then installing) is all there really is,Its def not hardware as you pointed out.
I have given it up. The GPU is now sold and I really hope that buyer will enjoy it better than me and that it’s not any issues with the GPU itself. I will have to use my RTX 2080 Ti Strix again and my son will return to his GTX 1080 Strix a little bit longer.
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1 hour ago, Soulres said:
Noticed these, not sure if you saw them but you've done articles about this before.
2022-12-13 16:28:25.777 ERROR DX11BACKEND (Main): DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
Also saw these issues. Is that old DirectX issue making a return?
2022-12-13 15:59:51.910 ERROR APP (Main): Error: Unit [S-3B Tanker]: Corrupt damage model.
2022-12-13 15:59:51.915 ERROR APP (Main): Error: Unit [SH-60B]: Corrupt damage model.
2022-12-13 16:28:25.782 ERROR DX11BACKEND (Main): Failed assert `0` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11StructuredBuffer.cpp:100
Is this relatable? Link to issue from 1 year ago
I think the only option is to run a repair (which I think you did) and do a complete,CLEAN, reinstall (Don't forget to save your Binds!) I'm finding errors reguarding
Ground units and others.. Have you tried updating direct X and making sure all your C++ runtimes uptodate? Give this a try, see what happens.
Repair is already made a couple of times and I have also reinstalled the Directx12 driver as well as C++. I also tried to add both the values in regedit without any further help. It still crash.
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Repaired the game again and deleted FXO and the Metashader catalogue. Reverted back to Beta again and tried to fly one more time. After 32 minutes in the air a sudden crash as usual. Nvidia driver 516.94 This time. I will give up here and I think I have done everything by now. I will just leave it as it is. I will stop fly DCS for a while since I cant get it to work. Thanks anyway for all your support guys.
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14 hours ago, Flappie said:
Maybe it's something to do with your motherboard. Please check its PCIE setting. It should be "Auto".
Also please ensure your GPU is seated in the fastest PCIE slot.
The GPU is placed in the fastest slot. I have actually no more ideas but I will still belive it has something with Nvidia drivers and maybe Win 11 to do. Some drivers work better than others but every driver will crash DCS in the end. I belive I have to wait for awhile and see what will happpen with the upcoming versions of Win 11 and the GPU driver. As I have been written before I have tested this GPU in three different computers with all different results. Some games will crash on my PC and not the other two and vice versa. All benchmarks run fine except one in Modern Warfare II 2022 but that game has so many bugs and needs to be updated to work without issues. Next thing is to reinstall Windows and also DCS but I hesitate to do it.
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The GPU is now tested in my friends PC with some progress. Intel I9 10XX CPU with 32GB RAM DDR4 with unknown motherboard and a PSU of 750w (Win10). DCS worked fine on his PC during the one hour test that we did but we used only VR (Oculus Quest II) for DCS. Microsoft Flight simulator 2020 crashed without VR on his PC almost at once with my RTX 3080. He used the 526.47 version of Nvidia driver.
I tried the exact same thing when I came home but with the driver 527.56. DCS crashed as usual when using my Oculus Quest One but Microsoft Flight Simulator worked great on my PC without VR.
I am almost for sure that the GPU is without any problem since those different games runs fine on different PC's. If the GPU have had some issues the same games would have crashed on both PC's.
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16 hours ago, Special K said:
Ah damn, that's bad. Really thought we've got a step ahead.
Any overclocking used? XMP profiles count as oc in that case.
I have tested XMP activated and inactivated (auto). I have it now off and run my RAM sticks at 2133Mhz instead of 3200Mhz (default) but it crashes anyway.
I have tried the GPU overklocked when running benchmarks and stress test without issues but normally I have everything at stock settings.
There seems to be a lot of problems showing up from day to day regarding different games nowadays. My son started to have issues with his old GTX 1080 in Modern Warfare yesterday that was new for him. A lot of crashes in several games use to be common with different types of GPU’s so this may have something to do with a combination of software issues I guess.
I will bring the GPU over to a friend today and try it in his PC with DCS to see what happens.
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Nvidia are also trying to help and this is the latest answer from them.
“Nothing stands out in the log file. There are still 3 drops in the 12v voltage, but that was a very long log. There is also still a Thermal Event flag, but it was early in the log file and had nothing to do with an actual Temp event yet again.”
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On 12/7/2022 at 7:06 PM, Flappie said:
Is your GPU wired as it should to your PSU? See here:
Yes I have two separate PCIe cables connected from the PSU.
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15 hours ago, Special K said:
Sorry, missed your dxdiag. What I see in there are 3 things:
a) your windows is outdated. I would recommend updating your windows 11 with the latest update from Microsoft.
b) your BIOS is very old and not Windows 11 compatible. This might cause all kind of issues already. Update your BIOS!
c) DCS crashes in the visual c++ runtime. If the above mentioned updates don't help already, reinstall the visual C++ runtime.
Win 11, BIOS and C++ updated to the latest. Repaired the game. Tride both the Beta and the stable (2.7.18.30765) version and the Beta seems to be a little bit more stable but it is hard to tell because the crashes are complete random. Same information in the system logg as before. This is ridicilous.
Edited: Even tried the lastest driver 527.56 the game crash and this time almost at once.
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1 hour ago, Special K said:
Sorry, missed your dxdiag. What I see in there are 3 things:
a) your windows is outdated. I would recommend updating your windows 11 with the latest update from Microsoft.
b) your BIOS is very old and not Windows 11 compatible. This might cause all kind of issues already. Update your BIOS!
c) DCS crashes in the visual c++ runtime. If the above mentioned updates don't help already, reinstall the visual C++ runtime.
I really appreciate your help. I will of course try all this asap.
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I am out of ideas now. The last thing that I did during the past hours was added an another PCIe cable to the GPU, changed RAM with my son and also tried to fly at 4YA multiplayer server. Still crash! Maybe its the GPU anyway but I wont belive that since other games and benchmarks work great. I really dont want to reinstall the game or windows since it is a lot of work but maybe that the last alternatives. I have 3 log files (Multiplayer, New RAM and 2 PCIe cables) from recent crashes if someone are interested.
Another test with driver 522.25 in recovery mode (if that´s the right word) and still crash.
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3 minutes ago, Soulres said:
I read that and instantly a CPU at 90'c thermal throttling will crash the game everytime.
Try this, See about doing a free flight mission, or hop into a FYA or (Through the Inferno) multiplayer servers to fly around in and see if it crashes. The Missions can be funky(meaning they crash) and I just wanna make sure which it is,
Also you can try Deleting the software from ASUS and then uninstalling the driver, let windows re-install it, then give the game a shot.
,Something not mentioned yet, what are your GPU,CPU,Harddrive/SSD Temps peaking at? Nothing over 85'c is there?
Unless your CPU is at a constant 90'c causing it to thermal throttle, which always causes DCS to crash, Im certain this doesn't apply to you.
I have tried the free flight mission with the same result. It crashes after a while. The temp of the GPU is just around 70 degrees celsius at max power and the CPU will never pass 50 degrees celsius. I have uninstalled both ICUE and ASUS Aura and have a minimum of programs running. I have no mods at all installed in the game. I played a lot at the FYA servers before and I will for sure try to log in there just to see what happen.
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17 minutes ago, Flappie said:
Is your GPU wired as it should to your PSU? See here:
When I had the same GPU in my sons PC we wired it up with two separate cables instead of one from the beginning. He has an Corsair AX1200i PSU in his PC and still some of his game crashed after we added the second cable. I will try to do the same on mine but I must get another cable first. It can of course have something to to with that.
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1 hour ago, DAZnBLAST said:
Did you mention you had an MSI RTX then switched to an ASUS RTX? Just out of interest, are you using the default drivers from nVidia or from MSI > ASUS?
I have the 12gb 3080 TUF, coming from 2070 Super MSI, I've had no issues, but have always used nVidia drivers, not MSIs or ASUSs. Only crashing I've had was to do with the last patch.
I switched from my earlier Asus RTX 2080TI Strix to my sons Asus RTX 3080 TUF. I have always used Nvidia drivers and DDU when I have replaced them.
9 hours ago, Soulres said:No problem, DCS is very quirky like oldschool Bethseda games.
Ok... I manage to fly a new session. Again it was the same Instant Case 1 landing mission. I was playing for almost an hour and said to my girlfriend that it seems to work this time but two seconds later DCS crashed again. That was one of the longer sessions before it crashed. I will add a HWinfo 64 log together with the DxDiag file.
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I will try your next suggestions in the weekend since I am away at work now but thanks for trying to help me.
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I have had a long brake from DSC and it is now nice to hear that I am not alone regarding all those crashes. I have been struggling a lot since I changed my GPU from my RTX 2080Ti to my sons RTX 3080 that I am now testing at my desktop PC. I have just been trying two of the instant missions (Free Flight and Carrier Landing) in the F18 so far and I have random crashes every time. It can sometimes be after 2 minutes and sometimes after an hours flight and I have no clue at all what causes those crashes. I thought in the beginning that it had something to do with the RTX 3080 but I am almost sure it is something in DCS since the card can run any type of benchmark/stresstest and also overklocked without any isses . My RTX 2080Ti seems to work fine in DCS those short period I have tested it so far in the same missions.
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53 minutes ago, Special K said:
It's strange that it works with the 2080 TI without issues. And with the same drivers settings and options. It's very unlikely the GPU, but that sounds more or less like it..
I agree but I think it is still very strange that the GPU runs fine in other games and also overclocked in Heaven Benchmark, 3D Benchmark and Furmark for quit long sessions without any issues. That make´s me belive it is software related. I will take my sons PSU (Corsair AX1200i) and his RAM and try them in my PC but I am almost sure it will have no effect since I have tried the 3080 for a short period in his PC with random crashes in some of his games. Valorant worked great in his PC but not Modern Warfare II for example.
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12 minutes ago, Flappie said:
Have you tried resetting your Nvidia Control panel options yet? (Restore default)
And you can also enable Debug Mode to see if that helps (NVCP >About > Debug Mode).
I have not restored it but I have tried the debug mode. Still crash randomly.
Training mission bug?
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I have now tried to fly both the JDAM and JSOW employment mission for the F18. In both of those mission you will not get any further information from the instructor when you have finished your first attack run and when you have released your weapons and hit those targets. The plane will just start to circle around the area with the AP activated and nothing more will happen. In the JDAM tutorial you can finish the mission yourself after you have programmed your weapons regarding the instructions in the briefing but you will not get any more instructions from the instructor. DCS version 2.8.8.43704. No mods are installed.