I've tried repeatedly to get this to work, even tried manually installing and still no joy, unistalled MM5 and installed latest ver. Grandsurf runway textures installs but doesn't show installation to cdds as for instance Groundpounder terrain does. even raised graphics level to highest settings, the most I've been able to get is greenish tinge around parking areas. Any advice would be welcome. My next step would be to uninstall LO:FC and start over but I can't see that really changing anything..?, But....:helpsmilie: