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  1. The reason I labeled it a flight envelope issue was because the F-15C could not hold a turn at its RL turning speed of 350 KIAS for more than a few seconds. This I stated on numerous previous posts. I can understand why you say it is not a flight envelope issue, but further thought on the subject will prove that the relativity between turning speed and back pressure required to hold that specified speed on the turn will create an almost constant G-load as long as this speed is held constant on a level circle turn. In real life, "turning speed" assumes that the pilot can hold the speed in
  2. You're absolutely right. LOL The only reason I began to do my own research was to prove some of my arguments once they were being disregarded simply as "bad flying". A track was posted afterwards that proved otherwise. The flight envelope issue is with the F-15C's inability to sustain a turn at its turning speed of 350 KIAS. I'm sure I don't need to explain further for you to realize that the current G-model does not allow for a sustained turn at this speed for more than a few seconds. Hence, the result is always a slow speed fight for all aircraft with A-LOC occuring at as little
  3. Hi GGTharos, I'm sorry, could you provide a source I can read that would support that statement? Nearly every source I have says otherwise, with the Eagle lacking in low speed / high AoA maneuverability due to the absence of automatic flap lowering like in the Super Hornet. Also, if you take notice on the Eagle's design, you can come to the conclusion that its shape is not for a high lift/drag scenario, but completely the opposite. The Eagle was aparently designed to reach Mach 2+ sacrificing wingspan, thus sacrificing low speed maneuverability. The Eagle's wingspan as FAR shorter than t
  4. S! Goshawk1, I agree with your post fully and I take this opportunity to point our the following: From the research that I've done this past month I can conclude that your personal tolerance is normal, where 7 G's is usually implicitely used as the benchmark G figure to test USAF pilots in (8 G's is used to test F-16 pilots). Consider the following: I've undergone consistent testing while flying the F-15C and under a normal dogfight situation, a sustained 7 G turn for at least 30 seconds is not possible in FC 1.1. Within the second or third turn, my pilot goes into A-LOC on a
  5. LOL :icon_lol: Give me a break, are you serious? Grab your reading glasses before you attempt to read the following: 1 - Edit the G-model to allow for the F-15C to sustain a turn at its real world turning speed of 350 KIAS without going into A-LOC. 2 - I am an ONLINE PLAYER, not single play. The SERVERS control this, not my personal settings. Placed it nice and big in bold letters for you, there should be no mistakes here. Sorry buddy, but you can't excuse an oversensitive G-model with the existence of precise aiming at high G turns... There's no excusing 1 attribute wit
  6. What Ice 169th is describing here is known as A-LOC which is *almost* a G-LOC. Real pilots are trained to recognize light loss (their unique type of light loss) and to take appropiate action once they detect light loss. Light loss is the singlemost important symptoss of G-LOC, with a blackout being the last symptom. Real pilots don't go on pulling constant G's when their field of vision has shrunk to the size of a peanut. As I stated before, I recently talked to several pilots and one of them (KnellKnell) actually posted here that 7G's can be sustained for prolonged periods of time without
  7. YO-YO, Please view this: http://169thpanthers.net/main/Tracks/Gz-1.zip This is a test track made by the CO of 169th Black Panthers putting the Full G Effects model to the test. As you will see in this track, he slowly pulls from 1 to 6 G's as gently as he can, holding G's at each integer every 10 - 20 seconds each. There is absolutely no hard turning or yanking in this track at any time...simple pull to 6 G's. Here its proven that the model goes into A-LOC at 6 G's in merely 10 - 15 seconds. The results from the track contradict the AnPetrovich data you just posted. I don'
  8. 1.02 operated in the exact opposite spectrum as 1.1. The change was so dramatic in fact, that the average turning speed for the Eagle went down from 350 - 450 KIAS (1.02) to 280 - 250 KIAS (1.1). Being tired of watching players doing loopies at 500+ KIAS (I hated this) without blacking out will surely give an itch to any realism "junkie" like myself and other pilots. On the 1.1 spectrum, the Eagle can't do sustained 500+ KIAS turns at 10G's anymore, which is great! But by the same token, it can't turn at 350 - 320 KIAS for more than a few seconds either. The latter range is where the Eagle
  9. The part where they discuss the 8G limit for relaxed G tolerance is a hypothetical case of a pilot withstanding 6 G's, prepping himself with lower G turns to get his heart rate up before the first high G pull. I have read and heard from several pilots recently that they have flown at 7G with their suit inflated and not have to strain at all or very little. The more I talk and read on the subject, the more I hear that the G limit that USAF pilots do talk about with some "fear" is 9 G's. Aparently this is extremely hard to achieve and mantain without A-LOC unless at top leg and abdominal sha
  10. Try lowering the effects setting to low.
  11. Heres a link to an interesting Power Point briefing for Navy pilots. http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/GTIP.PPT Cheers!
  12. I completely agree that its relevant and valid. However, for the sake of simplicity of the thread (quite complex already) and making it as short as possible (quite long already), I agree that its best if we concentrate on the G issue affecting only the pilots for now. The thread is quite contested with the dev's taking very careful steps towards a decision to modify the model and other players here defending it against those that feel it is overdone. I personally will keep all my attention to the Pilot g-tolerance issue since this directly affects (in some cases destroys) online gameplay
  13. Right, and I complained about this during 1.02. Eagles were abusing G's and making cartoony turns combined with rudder and flaps pulling 10 G's and getting everyone's 6oc because the late model allowed this. In addition, please note that in 1.02, pilots were turning their Eagles at 500+ KIAS deliberately without G-LOC, which is absolute crap. Now its completely the opposite, the only way for the Eagle to even put up a fight is by flying with 35% of fuel (4000 - 5000 pounds), with FULL flaps down doing 150 knots stall turns with your stick about to snap off due to shaking. Sure, anyone ca
  14. Thank you, I completely concurr with you. I talked to a UK RAF pilot, which I won't name here, that lurks in HL from time to time and happened to be on last night. He flies in the F/A-18 and tells me that the G tolerances in FC 1.1 are more akin to personell classified with low G-tolerance. The better pilots can withstand sustained 7 G turns without G-LOC and 8 G for short amounts of time. 9 G's is a very short pull and goes into G-LOC after 5 or so seconds with current F/A-18 TLLS equipment.
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