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atonium83 01-06-2016 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Flyschool (Post 2632121)
Maybe a CR or CT version in the futur after all spanish one

Yeah, French versions of this plane will be awesome, CR version will be great !

jaguara5 01-06-2016 09:57 AM

I hope some day i can fly in dcs with a mirage f1cg!

terence44 01-06-2016 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by atonium83 (Post 2632137)
Yeah, French versions of this plane will be awesome, CR version will be great !

+1000 To you two

He would be disrespectful, of make a plane without the version of the manufacturer country ...

Snax 01-06-2016 10:25 AM

Yes, a Mirage F1 CR would be a great addition to my DCS hangar.
And most of all we all would do this:

JuanOscar 01-06-2016 11:14 AM

Regarding the version to be developed, we are studying the different options we have, based in terms of info available for us. In Spanish Air Force, 3 different versions were in service before they went to the big upgrade for the F1 fleet to the M version, were the rest of the fleet remaining in service was normalized to the M.

Before Mirage F1M we had:

Mirage F1CE: C version, coming up to 3 different tranches, in each tranche, the F1 was receiving different upgrades. Also in each tranche, instruments could be found moved to different places, making the job for pilots a little bit more difficult.

Mirage F1EE: E version, came straight from the tranche 3. EE had INS system (same as INS installed on Super Etendard), Chaff and flares system integrated, ECM capabilities, refueling probe, among another small upgrades.

Tranche 3 of CE also came with ECM capabilities throgh the Barax pod, chaff and flares inegrated ALE-40.

Both CE and EE, later on received new modern RWR ALR-300, replacing the old original BF.

Mirage F1EDA: E version ex-Qatar F1's, with cockpit distribution similar to Iraq F1EQ, having INS system, but not the same as EE, Super Matra 530 capabilities, no tacan, no chaff/flares integrated, no ECM capabilities (Not being possible to use pods available in Spanish Air Force), new HUD VE-120, among other differences.

Right now, this versions are the options we have on the table to evaluate which one should be more interesting, and EE is a real candidate, we love the way the cockpit is designed, and the functionality. We believe it could be a very interesting aircraft to develop and to fly it as well.

CR/CT, and EQ, could be also interesting options, but lot of information is required to develop an aircraft, and our info in those versions is very limited. If we were lucky we could get the flight manual, but that is not enough. We need lot of documentation, photos, videos, contact with former pilots, maintenance pople, simulator access. As much as we can get of this, the better will be the final result, and for us, it will be more easy to get on spanish versions, basically there is no other reason. CT, CZ, AZ, CR, EQ, EH would be interesting, but not more than a proper CE/EE/EDA, with the proper info to do a nice job. And take in count at the end is a french aircraft, even 90% of the cockpit was remain in french labels during the service, and manual were never translated into spanish, forcing pilots and maitenance people, to study the original language to be able to learn the aircraft.:D

All this post, could be applied to the C-101 project, and why was choosen.

vikko 01-06-2016 02:58 PM

Our VFS-33rd CO is former F1CR pilot and I passed him the info about the materials needed. Hopefully when stars align we can make this magnificent plane happen.

Fox One 01-06-2016 03:22 PM

JuanOscar, please make the version you have most data for, even if it's not necessarily the most interesting.

Stratos 01-07-2016 02:22 PM

Is the "M" out of consideration? If you cannot model the "M" variant, I hope you can go with the EE, as it looks the most capable variant.

Ce_Zeta 01-07-2016 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Fox One (Post 2632532)
JuanOscar, please make the version you have most data for, even if it's not necessarily the most interesting.

I agree.

Tarres 01-07-2016 05:17 PM

Me too.

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