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JNelson 09-05-2019 10:07 PM

Fix for rudder problems
 
For those of you who have a problem with the rudder in the yak being far too much to the left and having no need for left rudder on takeoff. This is due to the trim tabs that ED has implemented. They are not editable from the menu however you can edit them in your game files.

You need to navigate inside your game install DCS World/Mods/aircraft/Yak-51/FM/FMOptions.lua

Inside this file you will find several lines.

aileronTrimTab = 0.0
elevatorTrimTab = 0.0
rudderTrimTab = -0.666

This -0.666 is the root of your problems. For a perfectly trimmed aircraft in the roll and yaw at 250 kmph (80% RPM and 600mm) I have found these settings for aileron and rudder.

Edit: Turns out my joystick was uncalibrated so aileronTrimTab should equal 0.0, not -0.13.

aileronTrimTab = 0.0
rudderTrimTab = -0.25

(for some reason the aileron trim tab is inverted negative value means right whereas positive means left)

This file appears to be loaded between flying sessions so you can use the instant action mission freeflight to tune your aircraft to your desired trim.

Lastly this file will be overwritten each update so it's best to use something like JSGME to make it a mod.

Hope this helps.

Mig Fulcrum 09-05-2019 10:59 PM

Many thanks, I will give it a try tomorrow.
I'm still waiting for a official fix for more then one year.

Mig Fulcrum 09-09-2019 03:43 PM

I have some issues editing the .lua files and it doesn't work, would you be so kind to attach here your FMOptions.lua
Thanks

JNelson 09-10-2019 11:14 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mig Fulcrum (Post 4032024)
I have some issues editing the .lua files and it doesn't work, would you be so kind to attach here your FMOptions.lua
Thanks

I recommend using notepad++. It's free makes things like this easier. Turns out my original post my joystick was uncalibrated so the aileron trim should be zero.

Attached the lua with zero aileron trim and the correct rudder trim.

TheSkipjack95 09-11-2019 11:03 AM

Thanks for the fix.


It has cured the rudder offset, but it doesn't seem to do anything with regards to the takeoff assist or reduced yaw moment.


I have tried setting the values relating to autotrim and takeoff assist to 0, but that didn't change anything, and I can't use the keyboard to use the rudder, despite no controller being bound in the controls.


I'm impressed ED somehow managed to break a plane with nothing more than wings and an engine.

JNelson 09-11-2019 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSkipjack95 (Post 4033667)
Thanks for the fix.


It has cured the rudder offset, but it doesn't seem to do anything with regards to the takeoff assist or reduced yaw moment.


I have tried setting the values relating to autotrim and takeoff assist to 0, but that didn't change anything, and I can't use the keyboard to use the rudder, despite no controller being bound in the controls.


I'm impressed ED somehow managed to break a plane with nothing more than wings and an engine.

I do have to put in left rudder with the correct trim settings however it was much less than at launch this may have been due to the fact the aircraft was not trimmed at launch. Eg if you set the trim of the rudder to zero it will take a fair amount to compensate for the moment. So I'm not really sure what is accurate.

Mig Fulcrum 09-11-2019 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JNelson (Post 4033277)
I recommend using notepad++. It's free makes things like this easier. Turns out my original post my joystick was uncalibrated so the aileron trim should be zero.

Attached the lua with zero aileron trim and the correct rudder trim.

I used Notepad but somehow after takeoff the rudder return to the offset position, I will try with your file and report here, thanks.

Edit: I've tried again but no luck, even with your .lua file it doesn't work for me.

NineLine 09-13-2019 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JNelson (Post 4028810)
They are not editable from the menu

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but you can adjust the Aileron and Rudder Trim on the Options menu.

bbrz 09-14-2019 02:57 AM

The last time I used the rudder trim option in the menu, it still didn't have any noticable effect on airplane.

Ramsay 09-14-2019 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NineLine (Post 4036231)
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but you can adjust the Aileron and Rudder Trim on the Options menu.

In February "Mig Fulcrum" said :

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mig Fulcrum (Post 3790864)
Rudder is still deflecting to the left and the trim tabs on the "special menu" don't seem to work.

This is a work around for that.

Though "AcroGimp" has said :

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcroGimp (Post 4031284)
I tried with the stock settings and the recommended setting in the Rudder Fix thread on ED Forums, neither are remotely correct IMO compared to my Yak. This was Sim not Game, Takeoff Assistance was off.



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