nick10 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Hello I’m in the market for a better stick. I’ve never used eBay. Anyone here have much experience. There seem to be a few warthogs etc for around $500. Also x56s for about half what you would pay elsewhere. thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VpR81 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I know it's hard to do, but better wait for prices going back to a normal level after the hype train for MSFS 2020 has reached it's station and TMs production capacity fits request again. I payed 380€ (~400 US$) for my Warthog (Stick andThrottle + including a 4 year warranty) in 2018. Before paying 500$ for a Warthog, you can spend a bit more, purchase a Virpil setup and you'll get way more for your money. And don't waste your money on a X-56, because it's propably worse than what you have now. Cheers Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus / 4x TM Cougar MFD / TM TPR / HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Is the x56 really that bad? I have no hotas at all currently. there’s plenty of cheap warthogs on eBay too. Just not sure what to make of it all. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-A10C-Stick-Throttle-BRAND-NEW-NO-RESERVE/293800287516?hash=item4467dc9d1c:g:-RYAAOSwkmJfkbaL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VpR81 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 The Warthog in your link is't realy cheap. 400$ is just the minimum bid and the guy is charging 339$ for shipping!? I had the X55 prior to the Warthog and it suffered from ghosting (known problem) and buttons stopped working at certain throttle positions shortly after warranty. Maybe just bad luck, but the X56 is the same HOTAS with different paint and new stickers. I wouldn't buy it. If money is short but you desperately want a decent HOTAS, wait for the Warthog beeing on a normal price level again. If you're willing to spend 500+ for just the Warthog, get Virpil Throttle and Stick instead and you'll have something way better than the Warthog for slightly more money. I made the mistake to go with the Warthog first and started to replace it end of last year. Could have saved me the money for the Warthog. Cheers Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus / 4x TM Cougar MFD / TM TPR / HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 The Warthog in your link is't realy cheap. 400$ is just the minimum bid and the guy is charging 339$ for shipping!? I had the X55 prior to the Warthog and it suffered from ghosting (known problem) and buttons stopped working at certain throttle positions shortly after warranty. Maybe just bad luck, but the X56 is the same HOTAS with different paint and new stickers. I wouldn't buy it. If money is short but you desperately want a decent HOTAS, wait for the Warthog beeing on a normal price level again. If you're willing to spend 500+ for just the Warthog, get Virpil Throttle and Stick instead and you'll have something way better than the Warthog for slightly more money. I made the mistake to go with the Warthog first and started to replace it end of last year. Could have saved me the money for the Warthog. Cheers sorry - you do or don’t recommend warthog? I thought it was the benchmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordite Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Key word is *was*. Past tense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 If you fly the A-10C for the majority of your flying, the Warthog HOTAS is perfect. But like other members have said, there are better products out there, for around the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patersonski Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Buying on eBay is fine, but before you pull the trigger make sure you click on the seller. Read the feedback on them from other buyers. Ideally you want a seller with lots of previous transactions with 99%+ positive feedback. Rig: i7-6850K, Sapphire 6900XT, 32GB RAM, Asus X99-Pro board. Gear: VPC WarBRD/MongoosT-50 Stick, VPC MongoosMT-50 Throttle, VKB T-Rudders Mk.IV Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 If you fly the A-10C for the majority of your flying, the Warthog HOTAS is perfect. But like other members have said, there are better products out there, for around the same price. virpil you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Virpil, VKB, Realsimulator, Winwing...all of those produce better products then the Hotas Warthog, which however remains a solid product R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Valve Index VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, Virpil Alpha Grip, Virpil CM3 Throttle + Control Panel 2, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 IMO, the best part about the Warthog is that it looks like the real thing and works pretty seamlessly in DCS. That being said, I have the Virpil base for my stick, and if money was no object, I’d look at something like the Virpil or WinWing throttles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Thanks chaps. Sounds like the thrustmaster warthog still hits that sweet spot for me for price and performance. I’ll keep my eyes out for bargains but sounds like it might take a while for the market to sort itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatthis Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 IMO, the best part about the Warthog is that it looks like the real thing and works pretty seamlessly in DCS. That being said, I have the Virpil base for my stick, and if money was no object, I’d look at something like the Virpil or WinWing throttles. i see no reason to change my warthog throttle. the virpil bases are in a different league to the warthog base though! the warthog stick itself is great and really solid but i like my virpil sticks too 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWoofer Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I've had two warthog sticks and both suffered from "sticktation". For very small movements the stick is just not smooth, at least in my opinion. Just google "sticky warthog stick". There is a mod you can do, but it involves taking the stick apart then sanding the plastic ball joint. Not for the faint of heart. This really shows if you fly any of the choppers. For jets and prop planes it's not as noticeable. I finally ended up buying the VPC WarBRD base from Virpil which works with the warthog stick. What a huge difference it has made. I couldn't be more pleased with this combo. There is no comparison to the warthog base. The Virpil base comes with additional springs and cams to get the feel and tension you want. The stick won't be recognized as a warthog stick, so you just have to reassign all of the buttons and switches. The warthog throttle works just fine and I'm very pleased with it. Good luck. Woofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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