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    Originally posted by hansangb View Post
    No, the "two weeks" is a running joke.

    Wags announced some of the work was done for Vulkan, but that all the shaders needed to be touched.

    So it's probably next year the earliest? That's a SWAG on my part though.
    Reminds me of this...


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      I really have big doubts that they will really implement vulkan anytime in the future. She already hinted that "the code is tough". They might just drop it altogether in hopes that hardware brute force alone will solve their core problem. They "were" supposed to be working on Vulkan since 2017, although very little or anything is known about that. The bottomline is that it might just be that they haven't even started it yet.
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        Originally posted by Adam View Post
        Reminds me of this...



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          Originally posted by stormridersp View Post
          I really have big doubts that they will really implement vulkan anytime in the future. She already hinted that "the code is tough". They might just drop it altogether in hopes that hardware brute force alone will solve their core problem. They "were" supposed to be working on Vulkan since 2017, although very little or anything is known about that. The bottomline is that it might just be that they haven't even started it yet.

          And yet the company owner publicly stated that improving the core is top priority. So I'm guessing it's a top priority until proven otherwise.
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            Originally posted by hansangb View Post
            And yet the company owner publicly stated that improving the core is top priority. So I'm guessing it's a top priority until proven otherwise.

            Agreed, I keep repeating this but E.D are not a large team and they already have put a magnificent work together, so credit to them and wait and see...

            With the new generation of CPU and GPUs around the corner, if we get a better (VR oriented) engine it will be all benefits, they know it is the best way to get players to come and stay with them.


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              Originally posted by hansangb View Post
              No, the "two weeks" is a running joke.
              Wags announced some of the work was done for Vulkan, but that all the shaders needed to be touched.
              So it's probably next year the earliest? That's a SWAG on my part though.
              You mean something like february/march 2021?
              My two cents about the turn this community is taking
              https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=284141

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                Nobody really knows, the speculation is at best... not actually helpful
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                  LOL. Yes, that's why I didn't preface 2021 with 1Q, 2Q, 1H, 2H etc.
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                    Originally posted by MPK View Post
                    Thank you for this thread. The CPU graph in the multiplayer section says it all (around 12:15 in the vid). No amount of GPU upgrades will ever make DCS run well in VR:
                    Exactly this. I too run DCS in VR (HP Reverb, GTX 1080, 8700K). My frame rates have gotten worse and worse over time with new patches. I used to get solid 45fps, but since recent patches I'm lucky to get 35fps. What's more as far as I can tell the entire thing is hopelessy CPU limited. I can tell this because as soon as I high "pause" (so it's still rendering but not running the simulation) my frame rate shoots up.

                    It's so incredibly frustrating. All I want is a solid framerate at a good resolution for VR, I don't care how bad it looks just let me see clearly and have a smooth experience. I used to enjoy playing the MBot DCE campaigns but now it's hopelessly slow, DCS just can't cope with having that many units in a mission. I'm not convinced any amount of upgrades will fix this, and it seems to be getting worse over time. This is the single biggest thing holding me back in DCS, and honestly it really makes me wonder how much extra I want to invest in the platform right now.
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                      Originally posted by Tomsk View Post
                      What's more as far as I can tell the entire thing is hopelessy CPU limited.
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                        Originally posted by Tomsk View Post
                        Exactly this. I too run DCS in VR (HP Reverb, GTX 1080, 8700K). My frame rates have gotten worse and worse over time with new patches. I used to get solid 45fps, but since recent patches I'm lucky to get 35fps. What's more as far as I can tell the entire thing is hopelessy CPU limited. I can tell this because as soon as I high "pause" (so it's still rendering but not running the simulation) my frame rate shoots up.

                        It's so incredibly frustrating. All I want is a solid framerate at a good resolution for VR, I don't care how bad it looks just let me see clearly and have a smooth experience. I used to enjoy playing the MBot DCE campaigns but now it's hopelessly slow, DCS just can't cope with having that many units in a mission. I'm not convinced any amount of upgrades will fix this, and it seems to be getting worse over time. This is the single biggest thing holding me back in DCS, and honestly it really makes me wonder how much extra I want to invest in the platform right now.
                        Eeer, I see in you pic GPU MEM 9,7/10GB... Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 1080 only have 8GB normally??
                        To return to the topic, I'm with you on that, with 2080ti and an Oculus Rift S, I struggle a bit to get both eye candy and smoothness all the time (Nellis with other aircrafts, Syria above populated area...) and I also noticed the game was perfectly smooth when paused. I have a Reverb G2 incoming, I hope it will not get worse (some reported performance increase compared to Rift/Rift S, so I have hope!)

                        Edit: Oh sorry, I just noticed it was not your pic, but MPK's one...!
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                          Heyy Guys

                          i hope someone can help me. I get bad stutters in DCS. With every stutter the sound lags too. I noticed that the cpu utilization drops with every stutter. No difference between singleplayer or multiplayer. I tried to lower all settings but no difference in stutters.
                          I disabled hotplug and game dvr.

                          I play only in VR and with the VR preset settings i got 80fps locked for my rift-s with no ASW.

                          My System:
                          Zotac RTX 3080
                          Ryzen 3700x
                          32gb RAM 2400MHz.
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                          thank you

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                            Originally posted by ibotyson View Post
                            Heyy Guys

                            i hope someone can help me. I get bad stutters in DCS. With every stutter the sound lags too. I noticed that the cpu utilization drops with every stutter. No difference between singleplayer or multiplayer. I tried to lower all settings but no difference in stutters.
                            I disabled hotplug and game dvr.

                            I play only in VR and with the VR preset settings i got 80fps locked for my rift-s with no ASW.

                            My System:
                            Zotac RTX 3080
                            Ryzen 3700x
                            32gb RAM 2400MHz.
                            NVMe 1Tb

                            thank you
                            If you go to the the VR thread, you'll likely get a better answer. And in that VR group, there are threads for various HMD (goggle) manufacturers. Be sure to specify which VR you're using.

                            Follow this trail:

                            ED Forums » English » DCS World Topics » Input and Output » Virtual Reality


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                              thank you

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                                Originally posted by Pride37 View Post
                                Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 1080 only have 8GB normally??
                                Depends on the model...

                                https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spec...x-cooler.b4349


                                Originally posted by ibotyson View Post
                                Heyy Guys

                                i hope someone can help me. I get bad stutters in DCS. With every stutter the sound lags too. I noticed that the cpu utilization drops with every stutter. No difference between singleplayer or multiplayer. I tried to lower all settings but no difference in stutters.
                                I disabled hotplug and game dvr.

                                I play only in VR and with the VR preset settings i got 80fps locked for my rift-s with no ASW.

                                My System:
                                Zotac RTX 3080
                                Ryzen 3700x
                                32gb RAM 2400MHz.
                                NVMe 1Tb

                                thank you
                                It is possible that the Ryzen 3700X is too weak for your GPU which could result in a bottleneck at higher resolution (4K), more to the point, your RAM is running too slow.





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                                  Originally posted by ibotyson View Post
                                  Heyy Guys

                                  i hope someone can help me. I get bad stutters in DCS. With every stutter the sound lags too. I noticed that the cpu utilization drops with every stutter. No difference between singleplayer or multiplayer. I tried to lower all settings but no difference in stutters.
                                  I disabled hotplug and game dvr.

                                  I play only in VR and with the VR preset settings i got 80fps locked for my rift-s with no ASW.

                                  My System:
                                  Zotac RTX 3080
                                  Ryzen 3700x
                                  32gb RAM 2400MHz.
                                  NVMe 1Tb

                                  thank you
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                                    Originally posted by Thinder View Post
                                    It is possible that the Ryzen 3700X is too weak for your GPU which could result in a bottleneck at higher resolution (4K), more to the point, your RAM is running too slow.

                                    I don't think that's the case. It's quite the opposite really. The higher the resolution, the less the CPUs tend to stand out.

                                    Even a R5 3600 is perfectly adequate for any resolution higher and including 1440p.

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                                      Originally posted by stormridersp View Post
                                      I don't think that's the case. It's quite the opposite really. The higher the resolution, the less the CPUs tend to stand out.

                                      Even a R5 3600 is perfectly adequate for any resolution higher and including 1440p.

                                      sims are notoriously cpu heavy, aaa games are not
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                                        Nearly all modern games use at least 8 CPU threads reasonably well. DCS uses 1 fully and about half of a second. For CPU reviews, take a look at their CS:GO benchmarks as those are going to be more representative of the kind of difference you can expect in DCS. VR is an FPS challenge and while one can always make the game GPU limited, if we're going for 90 fps (or more), then it tends to be a battle with CPU limitations on that single heavily used thread.

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                                          Originally posted by stormridersp View Post
                                          I don't think that's the case. It's quite the opposite really. The higher the resolution, the less the CPUs tend to stand out.

                                          Even a R5 3600 is perfectly adequate for any resolution higher and including 1440p.


                                          It's the bound between the two that matters, if you have more than 10% bottleneck at high resolution, it hurts the performances a lot.

                                          I'm looking for 4K and I expect my actual setting to be marginal at this resolution.

                                          The Ryzen 5 3600X and 1080Ti are a good match, above that you might need a stronger processor or GPU, here are my results.

                                          Average bottleneck percentage:

                                          1080P 4.52%
                                          1440P 6.65%
                                          2160P/4K 8.34%

                                          I don't know how the RTX 3080 compare because it is not yet listed for computing bottleneck so I stick to a possibility, something worth investigating.

                                          The Ryzen 7 3700x doesn't look like it is much stronger than the Ryzen 5 3600X, which is why I suggested it might not be strong enough for a RTX 3080.

                                          https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...00X/4043vs4041


                                          His RAM is definitively slow.


                                          In any case, it is wise to have a look at the bottleneck calculator before committing to a purchase, personally I always bound CPU and GPU to avoid going over 10%.

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