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    #21
    There's nothing wrong with preferring one sim to another or one kind of simming to another.

    However, perhaps one might prefer different things on different days. I have 3 sims on my PC that coexist nicely. Each has its' strengths and weaknesses. There's certainly a lot more to civil simming than watching the scenery go by.

    MSFS20 is in it's infancy. Give it a chance to stand up.

    So, I think some might enrich one's simming experience with a different simming flavour. Flight sims are products, much like your favourite beverages, or fishing rods (plural) or cars, if you are rolling in it. You might choose to use a different product depending on how you feel. Flight sims are not political parties, or religions.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Flit View Post
      There's nothing wrong with preferring one sim to another or one kind of simming to anonther.
      True, and many of us do. I also have il2, but it rarely keeps me for long for some reason. The title refers to the fact I bought this in a moment of weakness, because it was going to be a hard pass for me until vr gets implemented.

      I got an additional 10-20 minutes of stick time last night ( crowded schedule and in-laws still gonna be here awhile) and I was able to do air starts (thanx MAXsenna) , all the points I made earlier are things 2020 reinforced that I prefer with dcs
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        #23
        Originally posted by ngreenaway View Post
        Vr really is the cats pajamas, the bees knees- like I said, it was the hook that really brought me into vr. What I've found more important than FOV is clarity. Last I checked, monitors had a pretty limited fov as well, looking around is much more natural in vr tho







        My in-laws just moved back to the US from russia. I had Sergey, my father-in-law, flying around sochi in a mig19 and off the Kuz near batumi in the mi-8. One of the joys of dcs+vr is watching people experience it for the first time, it has much more of an effect on them than if they were staring at a monitor.



        I haven't gotten to dig into 2020 that much because we have guests staying with us, and after I finished installation, we had more guests coming for dinner but that touches on another thing I can appreciate about dcs- whatever we may complain about slow downloads on the days that everyone and their brother is updating dcs at the same time, it's still far better than the excruciating 15 hour installation process I had with 2020
        Yeah! You're right of course. I just want MORE/perfect! And I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get that eventually in my future simpit with 10 projectors, not VR. Very annoying that Nvidia dropped stereoscopic...
        15 Hours???!!!! Jeeeez... I seriously live on top of the world. 45 minutes for me. And that was like watching paint dry.


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          #24
          Originally posted by ngreenaway View Post
          True, and many of us do. I also have il2, but it rarely keeps me for long for some reason. The title refers to the fact I bought this in a moment of weakness, because it was going to be a hard pass for me until vr gets implemented.



          I got an additional 10-20 minutes of stick time last night ( crowded schedule and in-laws still gonna be here awhile) and I was able to do air starts (thanx MAXsenna) , all the points I made earlier are things 2020 reinforced that I prefer with dcs
          Hehe yeah. Once a month I may venture into Il2. Every other week MSFS, trice a week plus, Desert Storm.
          Every day, like 5-10 hours. DCS

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            #25
            Originally posted by Rudel_chw View Post
            I expected a flight manual for each aircraft, and the ability to save flight plans. Also expected better support For my hotas and oculus rift.
            I guess you have never played any of the previous MS Flight Simulators, because otherwise I really wonder what gave you those expectations for an MS FS.

            With DCS we are used to a very high standard of accurate aircraft simulation that not many other commercial sims can (or even want to) reach.
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              #26
              Originally posted by QuiGon View Post

              With DCS we are used to a very high standard of accurate aircraft simulation that not many other commercial sims can (or even want to) reach.
              That is the primary thrust of this thread: while other sims have stuff they do very well (and let's not forget, the latest iteration of msfs is in its infancy), by taking some time with the others simply reinforces how good overall we have it here. It's an easy thing to lose sight of amongst the clamoring of the torches-and-pitchforks mobs
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                #27
                Originally posted by Eldur View Post
                If only I was that rich to be able to say that even on a DCS module in a 50% sale...


                "They did a really good job on this logo though. Really, super bang up job!"
                ~CW Lemoine
                Give it time, if you're like me, after enough sales of picking up 2-3 aircraft at a time, you won't have any more to get & can start ignoring sales.

                Nice quote, ranks up there with his "if you're gonna suck, suck with confidence" one
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Flit View Post
                  Flight sims are not political parties, or religions.
                  I actually belong to 7 political parties and 4 religions. Like to hedge my bets.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by kontiuka View Post
                    I actually belong to 7 political parties and 4 religions. Like to hedge my bets.
                    I noticed that you used the word 'belong', as opposed to something like 'am' or 'believe'. I think my theory still stands.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by zhukov032186 View Post
                      I distinctly remember a great many claiming it would ''kill DCS'' just prior to launch... unsurprisingly, it's a modernised version of FSX, with everything that implies. I will admit I had high hopes, but am not terribly surprised by how it turned out. I have not purchased it myself, based on reviews.



                      How is that even possible? Isn't that like saying Ford's about to release a new truck that will put John Deere out of business?


                      It's entirely different market and genre, no?


                      I think of it as more of a civilian version DCS.



                      Also, I think people are overlooking the expansive map, weather, clouds etc. It's not a flop by any means. Having said that, I'll only take it for a spin when VR comes out.
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                        #31
                        Originally posted by MAXsenna View Post
                        Every day, like 5-10 hours. DCS
                        I want to live in your world. I'm lucky if I get 5-10 hours per MONTH!

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                          #32
                          Originally posted by Flit View Post
                          There's nothing wrong with preferring one sim to another or one kind of simming to another.

                          However, perhaps one might prefer different things on different days. I have 3 sims on my PC that coexist nicely. Each has its' strengths and weaknesses. There's certainly a lot more to civil simming than watching the scenery go by.

                          MSFS20 is in it's infancy. Give it a chance to stand up.

                          So, I think some might enrich one's simming experience with a different simming flavour. Flight sims are products, much like your favourite beverages, or fishing rods (plural) or cars, if you are rolling in it. You might choose to use a different product depending on how you feel. Flight sims are not political parties, or religions.
                          Agree! [emoji1]

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                            #33
                            Originally posted by ngreenaway View Post
                            Vr really is the cats pajamas, the bees knees- like I said, it was the hook that really brought me into vr. What I've found more important than FOV is clarity. Last I checked, monitors had a pretty limited fov as well, looking around is much more natural in vr tho







                            My in-laws just moved back to the US from russia. I had Sergey, my father-in-law, flying around sochi in a mig19 and off the Kuz near batumi in the mi-8. One of the joys of dcs+vr is watching people experience it for the first time, it has much more of an effect on them than if they were staring at a monitor.



                            I haven't gotten to dig into 2020 that much because we have guests staying with us, and after I finished installation, we had more guests coming for dinner but that touches on another thing I can appreciate about dcs- whatever we may complain about slow downloads on the days that everyone and their brother is updating dcs at the same time, it's still far better than the excruciating 15 hour installation process I had with 2020
                            You are correct of course! I will def get VR. I will, my GF wants to get into DCS, and sure, VR will blow her away.

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                              #34
                              Originally posted by dmatsch View Post
                              I want to live in your world. I'm lucky if I get 5-10 hours per MONTH!
                              I know. I'm seriously privileged! [emoji1]

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                                #35
                                What I like most about DCS is this community. So many of you are contributing and pulling in the same direction. Thank all you!!!

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                                  #36
                                  Had it just long enough to install and remember why it sucked the last time. Uninstalled, money back.
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                                    #37
                                    For the people who installed it and then uninstalled it, what were your expectations and your reality?

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                                      #38
                                      You are missing the point entirely to MSFS. It has always been just a platform for add-ons and once those arrive, example PMDG hardcore jets, this will be an AWESOME flight sim.
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                                        #39
                                        my weakness(hence the title) stems from the fact that this was supposed to be a hard pass till vr, but i got it anyway. ive come to appreciate many things in dcs as a result. i want to like fs2020, and im giving it a fair shake but i have a feeling itll end up like il2- a nice experience & pretty too, but not one i go back to very often
                                        i know its in its infancy, and has plenty of room to grow. it may be nice, or an enjoyable diversion. judging from the fora, civil aviation fans dont tend to like dcs , and dcs fans often dont care for civil aviation. there are exceptions, and plenty of them...but thats the general feeling im getting
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                                          #40
                                          Civ flightsim? Regardless the graphics and technology... Waaaaay too peaceful and boring for me. The only thing that would kill DCS 2.5 for me, would be DCS 3.0. I know ppl playing the MS (or similar) flight sims taking off in Berlin friday evening, engage autopilot, go to sleep and land in Sidney after waking up saturday morning. When i ask them why, they reply "well, the flight is boring". WTF, whats the point in playing it then? No, i knew from the beginning, that this new sim will have little to none affect on DCS. Simply two totally different types of flight simmers.

                                          Cheers

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