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    Why F14A when there's an F14B?

    Hi everyone. I might sound stupid for asking this. I don't really know the difference between the two models. I'm guessing the F14A is an early version than the B version. Why would anyone want to go backwards by flying the A?

    Like I said I have no idea and for all I know the A version is better.

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    #2
    The F-14A got better grade in school
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      #3
      Well the F-14B used to be called the F-14A+, so who is the better student now? hmmmm
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        #4
        The F-14A had the longest service history and is arguably the most iconic. It also fits the majority of assets in DCS basically perfectly (at least the earlier one will). Unlike literally every other BLUFOR aircraft apart from the F-5E-3, arguably the Mirage 2000C and the FC3 A-10A and arguably F-15C. Where not only are you flying a superior aircraft to start with, now you've got a 20-30 year advantage too.

        The A we currently have is a late model A, where the main/only difference are the TF30-P414A engines instead of the F110-GE-400 on the F-14B.

        It's not always about what's the latest and greatest, (even if it seems popular and even if it turns DCS into kinda an inconsistent mess), if capability was all I cared about, I would've bought the F-16CM and the F/A-18C and left it at that...

        I mean currently in DCS, if you fly the F-16C and F/A-18 not only are you flying something arguably superior to the Fulcrums and Flankers we have in the first place, you now have a 20-30 year head start too...

        Personally developing more Cold War aircraft is absolutely a step in the right direction, and I love the fact that all of Heatblur's aircraft fit each other perfectly.

        Also seeing as the most flushed out era is WWII and from WWII onwards, as said before, DCS is kinda an inconsistent mess when it comes to eras and the assets that fit them, with the vast majority of assets being late 60s - start of the 90s, but the only modules here are the F-5E-3 and the MiG-21bis. The F-14A (particularly the even earlier one) is definitely a step in the right direction.
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          #5
          Like Northstar pointed out, it's the longest serving variant. It's also the only Tomcat in service with a foreign air force, and at the end of the Tomcat's US service still made up a significant percentage of the fleet. Every squadron that ever flew the F-14 flew the A first, and some of them that's all they ever had. Pretty much any scenario taking place before 1988 the F-14A is the only one available, and after that year it was still the most common until the mid 1990s. By comparison, the F-14B served only 9 (and at a maximum 6 at once) fleet squadrons and the F-14D only served 4 (max 3 at once) versus the F-14A's 28 fleet squadrons, including by 1987 ALL at once.
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            #6
            Also, Top Gun. It's the version with the RIO-killing engine flameout issues and all that.

            Plus, IRIAF flies a stripped-down A version, making this particular variant relevant to modern scenarios.

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              #7
              Originally posted by TheTrooper View Post
              I'm guessing the F14A is an early version than the B version. Why would anyone want to go backwards by flying the A?
              I'll put it simple for you:

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                #8
                Kelly McGillis!? Well, that's a lunch I don't get to keep down. That's it, I quit and I'm going to fly Hornets.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Swordsman422 View Post
                  That's it, I quit and I'm going to fly Hornets.
                  Ban this infidel from our Tomcat family!

                  Good luck with that wingedscreenfasttanker
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                    #10
                    Anything is better than having to look Kelly McGillis full in the face at any age. I'd rather walk for an hour around my neighbor's horse farm and kiss whatever I found on the bottom of my boot.
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                      #11
                      But why is there a FW190D9 in the game when we have the F15?

                      Not everyone wants to play the most modern aircraft or airquake. Try out the different era servers, they can be fun and help you to improve as a pilot in other ways.
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                        #12
                        I've got more PVP kills in the A than the B so far...
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Harlikwin View Post
                          I've got more PVP kills in the A than the B so far...
                          Are the F-14's allowed in MP? I thought they got banned because of the last patch issues with the AIM-54.
                          Current modules:
                          FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map......ah yes, forgot the Super Carrier! Shows you how often i fly these days....

                          Modules in waiting: F-14A, MiG-23, F-4U, F-8, Falklands Map


                          Wish list: South East Asia map, F-4J/N, A-6, F-15A/C, Su-27, Sea Harrier FRS.1, Mirage III, MiG-17.

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                            #14
                            Guns only bro!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by captain_dalan View Post

                              Are the F-14's allowed in MP? I thought they got banned because of the last patch issues with the AIM-54.
                              On 80's servers they only have Fox1's.
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Harlikwin View Post

                                On 80's servers they only have Fox1's.
                                Originally posted by RustBelt View Post
                                Guns only bro!
                                Aaah, good to know. Thanks lads!
                                Current modules:
                                FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map......ah yes, forgot the Super Carrier! Shows you how often i fly these days....

                                Modules in waiting: F-14A, MiG-23, F-4U, F-8, Falklands Map


                                Wish list: South East Asia map, F-4J/N, A-6, F-15A/C, Su-27, Sea Harrier FRS.1, Mirage III, MiG-17.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Harlikwin View Post

                                  On 80's servers they only have Fox1's.
                                  Hands down my favourite servers. Though eventually, it would be nice if they allowed maybe a max of two AIM-54As (don't know if thats possible?) and limit the F-14A to AIM-9L's and AIM-7F's for balance but also still giving the Tomcat its premier weapon.

                                  Originally posted by Sideburns View Post
                                  But why is there a FW190D9 in the game when we have the F15?

                                  Not everyone wants to play the most modern aircraft or airquake. Try out the different era servers, they can be fun and help you to improve as a pilot in other ways.
                                  I swear these threads pop up every week... it would be really good if people did a search first before posting this exact same question.

                                  To add to your point, Sideburns, it really is about time frame, historical significance, etc. Everyone seems to understand that something like the F8F or Spitfire Mk. 22 do not belong in a WW2 server because they saw no real action during that conflict despite actually entering service before its end. No questions asked.

                                  What seems to be forgotten is it's the exact same thing with the F-14A and F-14B during conflicts like the Iran-Iraq War. The F-14B did not score a single aerial victory and produced no aces; it saw no combat until Desert Storm AFAIK.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RustBelt View Post
                                    Guns only bro!
                                    Yep the ONLY fight the tomcat can win ;P
                                    DCS F/A-18C

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Wizard_03 View Post
                                      Yep the ONLY fight the tomcat can win ;P
                                      A well driven F-14 with a human RIO dominates PvP; even more if you get to fly in a two-ship
                                      (of course not now, after the 4th of november with last 2 patches ED made our Tomcats almost useless)
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                                        #20
                                        >When people ask why the A when you have the B?
                                        >Me sitting in the corner rocking back and forth "Just...just you wait till the 135-GE Early with AIM-9Hs, AIM-7E4s and the literal Rorschach test that is the ALR-45 RWR comes,...I'll show you....I'll show you all!"

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