CarbonFox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 With the Syria map, it would be awesome to see some Israeli developed weapons. Python 3/4/5 Derby missile AGM-142 Popeye, etc. 1 F/A-18C; A-10C; F-14B; Mirage 2000C; A-4E; F-16C; Flaming Cliffs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 What about IDF air defences like Iron Dome w. EL/M-2084? 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Romeo Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 With the Syria map, it would be awesome to see some Israeli developed weapons. Python 3/4/5 Derby missile AGM-142 Popeye, etc. Sure, if you can give ED some classified data so they can simulate them.... My skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViFF Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 With the Syria map, it would be awesome to see some Israeli developed weapons. Python 3/4/5 Derby missile AGM-142 Popeye, etc. The Python 3 is actually already in the DCS library as the Chinese PL-8. I recall there was a mod by iafscx with the Python 3 for the F-15 but I'm not sure it includes the special "canted" pylon necessary for the F-15 due the the size of the rear fins of the missile. Cheers! IAF.ViFF http://www.preflight.us Israel's Combat Flight Sim Community Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max1mus Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 What about IDF air defences like Iron Dome w. EL/M-2084? DCS in its current state can not live without those on top of an upgraded variant of SA-15 like M2. Too many standoff weapons, but no proper SAM counters for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxDollarsAtWork Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 What plane would you put them on? Certainly not the teen series fighters we have in game currently as they're all based on US version, which do not use these missiles. Seems nonsensical to me to ask they be added, unless you also want to add with them AI Neshers Kfirs Baraks and Netz fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baco Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I would give a Kidney for a Nesher or Kfir ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) I would give a Kidney for a Nesher or Kfir ;) not sure what Pitkun would be able to use your kidney for. i dont even know what the kidney-to-shekel exchange rate is. Edited October 15, 2020 by ngreenaway [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Baco- i would be cautious if i were you. i dont remember seeing anything about it in the forum rules, but i have a feeling trafficking in human organs -even your own- might be a bannable offense. perhaps Newey or 9L can weigh in on that? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baco Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 not sure what Pitkun would be able to use your kidney for. i dont even know what the kidney-to-shekel exchange rate is. Well for now its a MOD... I mean a full module, officially anounced... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baco Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Baco- i would be cautious if i were you. i dont remember seeing anything about it in the forum rules, but i have a feeling trafficking in human organs -even your own- might be a bannable offense. perhaps Newey or 9L can weigh in on that? Its my body, my decision!, oops wrong forum LOL..... Need any kind of Dassault 70´s delta right NOW! jajajaja Mirgae III, IV, Dagger, Nesher, Kfir, Cheetha, Panthera any!!! and all of course LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Its my body, my decision!, oops wrong forum LOL..... Need any kind of Dassault 70´s delta right NOW! jajajaja Mirgae III, IV, Dagger, Nesher, Kfir, Cheetha, Panthera any!!! and all of course LOL I would agree, if you wanna sell off body parts as scrap to get a module..well...theyre yours, you should be able to do what you want with them, but i figgered id pass on the warning. You never can be too careful [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Well for now its a MOD... I mean a full module, officially anounced... ;) Well, if and when it gains the letters "ule" and goes from being a mod to a paid module, the sonic boom you hear will be the shekels launching themselves from my wallet in Piktun's direction [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black6 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 10/12/2020 at 8:18 PM, ViFF said: The Python 3 is actually already in the DCS library as the Chinese PL-8. I recall there was a mod by iafscx with the Python 3 for the F-15 but I'm not sure it includes the special "canted" pylon necessary for the F-15 due the the size of the rear fins of the missile. Cheers! Hy, is there any mod for using Python 3 (PL-8) with F-16CM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViFF Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 As far as I know the Python 3 was not used on the IAF F-16. Only used on the F-15, Kfir, and sometimes F-4E. Cheers IAF.ViFF http://www.preflight.us Israel's Combat Flight Sim Community Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Python 4/5 would be super cool to have. Not sure if there's really enough on it to get it 100% accurate but i'm sure that one could get enough info from cfd and approximations of its motor type to get something that would be somewhat close. Spice though would be more work as, at least if bms is accurate, depends on additional functionality in the UFC and DED. But would not be opposed to ED doing this. Who knows maybe an F-16I as a future module would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViFF Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 The Python 4 and especially the 5 family are claimed to have advanced options such as Lock On After Launch (LOAL) and other nifty sensor, guidance and autopilot functions such as electro optic imaging and post merge full sphere launch ability that are simply impossible to get any reliable information about. Marketing materials of the OEM toting these abilities should not be considered reliable data. The fact of these missiles existence in any "other" software title claiming to be a "simulation" is simply a joke to their claim as there is no available data to simulate any of these attributes. IAF.ViFF http://www.preflight.us Israel's Combat Flight Sim Community Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarTzi Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, nighthawk2174 said: Python 4/5 would be super cool to have. Not sure if there's really enough on it to get it 100% accurate but i'm sure that one could get enough info from cfd and approximations of its motor type to get something that would be somewhat close. Spice though would be more work as, at least if bms is accurate, depends on additional functionality in the UFC and DED. But would not be opposed to ED doing this. Who knows maybe an F-16I as a future module would be nice. Anything Israeli (and modern) is a no-go for DCS. Israeli aircraft are heavily modified inside and out, and no information is publicly available to simulate in detail (even cockpit shots are OPSEC). The closest thing is a stock US made aircraft with an Israeli livery. It would be more reasonable to have Israeli assets as AI, with Python acting like Aim-9X, and Spice acting like JDAM. Edited January 20, 2021 by BarTzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Python 5 might actually be accurate for our F-16 https://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article2044.html also has anyone ever managed to use the Pl-8 in game? What’s it like? How does it compare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upyr1 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I wish they had Israeli missiles in flaming cliffs for the F-15. 13 minutes ago, F-2 said: Python 5 might actually be accurate for our F-16 https://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article2044.html also has anyone ever managed to use the Pl-8 in game? What’s it like? How does it compare? That would be more reason to add them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, upyr1 said: I wish they had Israeli missiles in flaming cliffs for the F-15. That would be more reason to add them Any reason we can’t mod the in game pl-8 and see how it does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bies Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Shafrir-1, -2, Python -3 might be possible. More modern are ridiculously classified due to Israeli policy. This earlier, yet distinct Israeli made weapons would be great, to be honest I can see them being added to DCS together with some aircraft of that era which Israeli used being released. IDK, maybe F-15A or C, or F-16A,. Mirage III or typical Israeli one like Kfir, Lavi. Our F-16C from 2007 would use Python-5, but we can safely forget about such missile as long as we don't want totally unrealistic generic weapon with close to zero in common with real life being added to DCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 6 hours ago, bies said: Shafrir-1, -2, Python -3 might be possible. More modern are ridiculously classified due to Israeli policy. This earlier, yet distinct Israeli made weapons would be great, to be honest I can see them being added to DCS together with some aircraft of that era which Israeli used being released. IDK, maybe F-15A or C, or F-16A,. Mirage III or typical Israeli one like Kfir, Lavi. Our F-16C from 2007 would use Python-5, but we can safely forget about such missile as long as we don't want totally unrealistic generic weapon with close to zero in common with real life being added to DCS. We have Python 3. Deka added the Pl-8 a while ago. I just don’t think anything uses it. I’m curious how it compares to pl-5, aim-9l, magic II, and R-73. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) On 7/26/2022 at 12:59 AM, F-2 said: Python 5 might actually be accurate for our F-16 https://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article2044.html also has anyone ever managed to use the Pl-8 in game? What’s it like? How does it compare? The source doesn't say it definitely happened though. While the title says "USAF to purchase 20 Python 5 missiles" making it sound like it's going to happen, the very next line reads: "...the USAF might buy twenty Python 5..." (emphasis mine). Edited July 27, 2022 by Northstar98 spelling Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Northstar98 said: The source doesn't say it definitely happened though. While the title says "USAF to purchase 20 Python 5 missiles" making it sound like it's going to happen, the very next line reads: "...the USAF might buy twent Python 5..." (emphasis mine). Oh yes yes. I said might but without the emphasis. But if it becomes known it could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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