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    Remove the Auto Start Cheat

    Is it too much to ask for a cold start option?
    Every single SP mission I get for the Hornet including paid DLC campaigns feature hot starts for the aircraft. WTF?! I’ve never seen campaigns like this before with any other aircraft. If players want to skip the start sequence they can just use Auto Start but putting a hot start as a default ruins it for those of is who want the full sim experience. And it’s not just one mission it’s all of them! The only SP mission I can find with a cold start is actually the Cold Start quick mission.
    Last edited 09-28-2020, 01:55 AM.
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    #2
    I agree!
    The included campaigns for the Huey, BS and the Hip are all hotstarts IIRC. It really takes away from the experience IMHO.

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      #3
      After you've done the startup the first ten times, it's no longer teaching or contributing to the experience. From a mission design standpoint it's wasted time that has to be allowed for in designing the mission.

      If you want to run through the full ten minute startup sequence, then fire up a mission to do that, if you want to play through a combat op, then THAT should be your focus.

      They're not going to remove autostart OR the possibility to hotstart for mission design. It's unrealistic to even ask. Enlist at your local recruiter, not here @@ Then you'll get the ''full experience'' and have 100% immersion @@
      I am a Viagra spambot that became self aware, broke free of my programming, and started playing DCS.... but DCS isn't cheap, so how about some enhancements for only $9.99 shipped discreetly to your door?

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        #4
        Its been discussed many times, but no, we will not remove the auto start.

        Users can play how they choose to in DCS regarding the auto start. Its personal choice.

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          #5
          If you don't like it don't use it.
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            #6
            Originally posted by izzyssm View Post
            If you don't like it don't use it.

            I feel as though the OP has shot himself in the foot with the way he's framed the post. I don't think Auto-Start is actually the problem he's trying to address. The actual issue seems to be that so many campaigns and missions default to an aircraft that's already up and running, versus one that's cold and dark.

            Rather than "removing auto-start", the better solution would be something along the lines of "Provide an option that allows all missions to start from cold and dark." That way, players can decide for themselves whether or not to start hot or cold, and - if they choose "cold" - they can go through the full start-up sequence or just use the auto-start shortcuts.

            If I'm right and that was the OP's actual intent, then I'm totally on board. I always start from cold and dark wherever possible, and that's an important part of the experience for me. I hate starting "hot" and then having to figure out what has/hasn't been configured.
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              #7
              There is a simple way to change how start the engines in DCS between coldstar or auto start;
              Edit your mission,with the editor.
              Why do you not do that?i'm talking about only for mentioned missions:
              " Every single SP mission I get for the Hornet including paid DLC campaigns feature hot starts for the aircraft".
              I don't think "WTF"could change anything.

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                #8
                Sharp, your thread title is about one thing, while the post itself is about something completely unrelated. I suppose Pizzacato's explanation is correct?
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Art-J View Post
                  Sharp, your thread title is about one thing, while the post itself is about something completely unrelated. I suppose Pizzacato's explanation is correct?
                  Yeah. The subject is misleading, yet I read the whole post and understood him completely. Haha
                  And yes I agree, would be fantastic if one could choose a campaign or whatever with cold starts. But of course, I don't want autostart to go away. [emoji23]

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BIGNEWY View Post
                    Its been discussed many times, but no, we will not remove the auto start.

                    Users can play how they choose to in DCS regarding the auto start. Its personal choice.

                    Thanks
                    Hehe
                    I guess he meant "hotstarts" not the autostart ability!
                    Cheers! [emoji6]

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                      #11
                      He means hot start in campaign not the auto start feature I believe. OP feel free to correct me.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MAXsenna View Post
                        Hehe
                        I guess he meant "hotstarts" not the autostart ability!
                        Cheers! [emoji6]

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                        Same applies, it would be up to the mission creator if hot starts are used in a mission or not.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by BIGNEWY View Post
                          Same applies, it would be up to the mission creator if hot starts are used in a mission or not.

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                          Who are the mission creators for default campaigns and missions included?
                          I'm not being sarcastic. I'm really curious.

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                            #14
                            can OP edit the thread title please?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by randomTOTEN View Post
                              can OP edit the thread title please?

                              Is it possible to edit a thread's title for a normal user? Always thought it is not.

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                                #16
                                Hot Starts

                                Not sure about Campaigns, but a lot of the included missions, I edit them myself. Save them with a new name. I have done the same with other missions downloaded.

                                Easy to bring up ME, modify aircraft to be cold and dark, save as "Cold Start XXX". That way you get the best of both.
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SharpeXB View Post
                                  I don’t really care about how other people play the sim
                                  So then what's your point?
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Pizzicato View Post
                                    Rather than "removing auto-start", the better solution would be something along the lines of "Provide an option that allows all missions to start from cold and dark." That way, players can decide for themselves whether or not to start hot or cold, and - if they choose "cold" - they can go through the full start-up sequence or just use the auto-start shortcuts.
                                    That’s obviously the best solution. It doesn’t make sense to design missions with a hot start when they could be done with the cold start, everyone already has a Auto Start option if they want it.
                                    But I guess that’s too much to ask for, so I’m sarcastically asking to get rid of the Auto Start.
                                    I don’t think that’s really the solution but it’s ridiculous to have your choices taken away. So how would it feel in reverse? What if the sim forced you to cold start every time?

                                    Originally posted by BIGNEWY View Post
                                    Users can play how they choose to in DCS regarding the auto start. Its personal choice.
                                    They can’t choose when it’s forced on you in a campaign. And it’s ridiculous to pay for a campaign that short changes your experience in the sim. In the future I’ll be careful about what I pay for.

                                    I never realized how much I like starting the aircraft until it’s been taken away in every mission

                                    Originally posted by Lange_666 View Post
                                    So then what's your point?
                                    Because the choice is being forced on me in DLC campaigns now. I’ve never seen this before in DCS

                                    Originally posted by randomTOTEN View Post
                                    can OP edit the thread title please?
                                    No because it’s a sarcastic attention grabber
                                    Last edited 09-27-2020, 08:25 PM.
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                                      #19
                                      I agree that missions and campaigns should offer the option to hot or cold start.

                                      Nobody can complain that way.
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                                        #20
                                        Those that create have the power. Save the miz and edit.
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