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    [REQUEST] Gunsight and NS-430 in L-39C

    Could be possible to move the NS-430 in the cockpit of the L-39C in order of being able to use it with the gunsight, like the C-101?

    I don't know why you have to choose between the GPS and the gunsight. It seems to me an error of design of the module from the beginning. And I don't think is a matter of "realism" since this GPS is not a standard equipment for the L-39 and you can put it where you want, even taped somewhere in the cockpit like added in the field by the pilot himself or something.

    #2
    Current GPS placement on L-39C makes sense if you look at videos of GA flying. More options would be nice, but there is a reason behind why it is placed like it is.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Schmidtfire View Post
      Current GPS placement on L-39C makes sense if you look at videos of GA flying. More options would be nice, but there is a reason behind why it is placed like it is.
      There are videos of GA L-39 with a commercial GPS fixed to the plexiglass of the canopy with a sucker. They could have put it anywhere. They could have put it in the right panel, as it's in LOTUS's L-39 for FXS, for example. I think what makes sense is not stripping away the weapons capability of a plane IN A MILITARY SIM for a GPS. We should not have to choose between a GPS and the use of weapons in a sim like DCS World.

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        #4
        It is more common for GA that the Garmin GPS unit is placed at the current position. Probably as it does not obstruct view and it is a rather clunky piece of kit. Not small like a car GPS.



        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czm8...OrestesLorenzo
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMCf...nel=CoryLovell
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK4W...l=VaclavSvejda
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifrp...isnyakVladimir
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhkn...howStuffVideos

        BUT I think it should be added to L-39ZA the same same way as C-101CC
        Makes sense. GPS with no gunsight L-39C, GPS with gunsight L-39ZA

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          #5
          Originally posted by Schmidtfire View Post
          It is more common for GA that the Garmin GPS unit is placed at the current position. Probably as it does not obstruct view and it is a rather clunky piece of kit. Not small like a car GPS.



          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czm8...OrestesLorenzo
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMCf...nel=CoryLovell
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK4W...l=VaclavSvejda
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifrp...isnyakVladimir
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhkn...howStuffVideos

          BUT I think it should be added to L-39ZA the same same way as C-101CC
          Makes sense. GPS with no gunsight L-39C, GPS with gunsight L-39ZA
          So, you want that we have to buy another GPS for the ZA in order of being able of using the weapons with the GPS? Do you work for ED, by chance?

          This is not a civilian simulator. The L-39C is not a simulation of a GA aircraft in DCS, but a military trainer and light attack aircraft. 15 years ago, when GPS wasn't so common as today, it could happen that civilian GPS, or even just car navigators where mounted in older military jets as "field modifications" or something like that. And that's what could be simulated here with this NS-430, not a GA plane. If it's a GA plane what they are simulating, they well could remove the old ex-soviet militar equipment and upgrade the L-39C with modern radios, autopilot and other civilian equipment that usually is seen in GA L-39's.
          Last edited by Alba57; 10-08-2020, 06:07 PM.

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            #6
            I do not work for ED

            It should be included and working with the L39ZA. No additional cost.
            Just like it works for both versions C-101 and C-101CC. DCS is a military sim,
            but I do understand the reason why they placed it that way on the L-39C. What they need to do is integrate it properly with the ZA version (w. gunsight) as it makes more sense in every way to use that version for weapons training and light attack.

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              #7
              Wasn't It in the rear cockpit if you have gunsight mounted on l-39c? I saw some pictures.

              Not compatible with za afaik.

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                #8
                Originally posted by nessuno0505 View Post
                Wasn't It in the rear cockpit if you have gunsight mounted on l-39c? I saw some pictures.

                Not compatible with za afaik.
                At beginning Yes it was ( on C only), don't know why they disable this fonction, that was cool

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                  #9
                  The NS 430 for the L-39 module integrates the NS 430 panel directly into the L-39C cockpit (not as a pop-up display). The NS 430 is fully wired into the electrical and radio systems of the L-39.

                  The NS 430 panel is placed in the front cockpit, and the gunsight must be turned off to operate the NS 430.
                  I must agree it is oddity that attack variant loses its attack capability because GPS unit.

                  Sure one should be able to pull the cables with extension through the sunshield so GPS unit can be mounted to canopy frame or top of a sunshield, so that gunsight can be attached.

                  But if gunsight uses same connectors as the GPS unit, then I understand that they can't share same and so on co-exist.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Morpheus View Post
                    At beginning Yes it was ( on C only), don't know why they disable this fonction, that was cool
                    So let's request they enable again the option to have GPS on the rear cockpit, I'd suggest both with gunsight enabled and disabled, at least in the c version as It already was if not possible in the za too.

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