GumidekCZ Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 DCS OB version: 2.5.6.57530 Reporting: TWS BIAS Mode unable altitude change after TWS AUTO. TWS BIAS Mode ABLE altitude change after only TWS MAN.BIAS_ALT_BUG.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted November 16, 2020 ED Team Share Posted November 16, 2020 What I am seeing is that when using Reset, you cannot adjust altitude in MAN mode after TWS AUTO or BIAS, but if you switch it with the DDI button 13, you can. Is this correct to what you are reporting? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GumidekCZ Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Again, I see a bug in that Unable to change altitude elevation after presed TDC depress (switching to BIAS) in TWS AUTO mode. Because if done same thing in TWS MAN mode (pressing TDC depress and switching to BIAS), than I can change altitude elevation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thallios Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 The problem not only exists in TWS MAN Mode. If you change from TWS Auto to RWS the same problem occurs. The radar elevation can not be changed manually. You always have to cycle through TWS Auto and TWS MAN manually several times until you end up with TWS MAN then you can change once the radar elevation. If you then change to any other mode (TWS or RWS) radar elevation is stuck again until you change back to TWS MAN manually (after once cycling through TWS AUTO). This is a short time work around but surely not intentionall as you can not change modes and change radar elevation. In a BVR engagement this is not really a situation you want to handle additionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I just flew the Hornet in MP and after an engagement where I switched a couple of times between RWS, TWS AUTO, TWS MAN and ACM my radar elevation became stuck. I was not able to change the radar elevation anymore (not even in RWS) for the remainder of the flight. I have the track file, but it is rather useless as it happened after 2h of flying. It's also not the first time this happened to me. The same thing happened on another flight a few months ago. Additionally, when I landed back at base with the radar elevation still stuck, but radar turned to STBY to land I suddenly locked some target when I pressed the NWS button on the runway to taxi clear. It almost seemed like some sort of ACM mode was still active, even though the radar was switched to STBY. The lock was shown in the HUD and I was not able to drop the lock, not even by switching the radar to OFF. :huh: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al-Azraq Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Yeah I'm having these issues with the Hornet radar where the elevation gets stuck after changing TWS modes and RWS. I've been never able to reproduce the issue but I think you guys got it. There's a nasty bug there. Also the 'ghost' lock @QuiGonmentions has happened to me many times. Sometimes this ghost contact gets to Angels -77 and can't be unlocked. i7 12700KF | MSI Z690 A-PRO | Corsair Vengeance 2x16 gb @ 3200 Mhz | RTX 3070 Ti FE | Acer XB271HU 1440P 144HZ | Virpil T-50 CM throttle | Virpil WarBRD Base + MongoosT-50 CM2 Grip | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR 5 | HP Reverb G2 Bf 109 K-4 | Fw 190 A-8 | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | P-51D | Fw 190 D-9 | P-47D | Mosquito FB VI | F/A 18C | F-14 A/B | F-16C | MiG-15bis | MiG-21bis | M-2000C | A-10C | AJS-37 Viggen | UH-1H | Ka-50 | Mi-24P | C-101 | Flaming Cliffs 3 Persian Gulf | Nevada | Normandy | The Channel | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) On 12/3/2020 at 10:18 AM, Al-Azraq said: Yeah I'm having these issues with the Hornet radar where the elevation gets stuck after changing TWS modes and RWS. I've been never able to reproduce the issue but I think you guys got it. There's a nasty bug there. Indeed, I get this issue pretty regularly when flying online, but I have not managed to reproduce it in a test environment. @BIGNEWY I've attached a track file of a rather short online flight today, where this issue occured once again (you can see the radar being stuck at the end of the flight when fuel is below 2000). I've also tried to reproduce it in a test environment, but wasn't able to do so. When flying online I run into this issue almost everytime when I switch between RWS and TWS in a fight. Not sure what causes it, but it's pretty annoying when your radar gets stuck. I've lost all confidence in TWS because of this and stick to RWS only until this gets fixed. Edit: Nvm, even though it was just a rather short flight, the file is too big to upload it... Edited December 19, 2020 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 8:58 PM, Thallios said: The problem not only exists in TWS MAN Mode. If you change from TWS Auto to RWS the same problem occurs. The radar elevation can not be changed manually. You always have to cycle through TWS Auto and TWS MAN manually several times until you end up with TWS MAN then you can change once the radar elevation. If you then change to any other mode (TWS or RWS) radar elevation is stuck again until you change back to TWS MAN manually (after once cycling through TWS AUTO). This is a short time work around but surely not intentionall as you can not change modes and change radar elevation. In a BVR engagement this is not really a situation you want to handle additionally. this problem is still present in latest OB, but the solution Thallios posted no longer works for me. therefore i cant use TWS AUTO, because then radar elevation doesnt work in RWS until respawn. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) basically: stay away from TWS, or your RWS will be unusable for the rest of the mission Edited December 21, 2020 by dorianR666 CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thallios Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Bug seems still to be present in OB DCS 2.5.6.59625.1 Encountered the Bug today on one of my multiplayer games, unfortunatelly no track file available Edited January 11, 2021 by Thallios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Use the AZ/EL page to manipulate azimuth and elevation in TWS. BIAS in it's current state only makes your life worse. EDIT: After going AUTO->BIAS->RESET I can just toggle AUTO/MAN back to MAN and I can use elevation again. Edited January 14, 2021 by Svend_Dellepude [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thallios Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 It also seems to be related to the AIM-7 if no AIM-7 is equiped it worked just fine recentyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
July Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Whether or not this bug is tied into specific attributes like weapon loadout has yet to be seen. However, I can say that I have experienced this problem no matter the ordnance. The bug persists even on a clean aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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