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    [SPI RELATED]How do I use the Maverick?

    Hi,

    Is it possible, because I can't figure out how, to visually find a target, and then put the TPOD on it, to fire a Maverick at it?

    TPOD and Mavs warmed up, both displays showing a picture.
    TPOD on the left, Mav on the right.

    So I approach a visual target, Air-to-ground mode enable. Mavs set to Vis. I can use the HUD set as SOI to move both the TPOD and MAV seeker around.

    But I want to fine tune, so I select the TPOD as SOI, I can't move it, the cursor just blinks rapidly and the picture judders.

    Tried all the TMS commands, nothing changes.

    It can't be this hard surely??

    If you set to Mavs to Pre-plan and have a waypoint on the target area, TPOD slews to waypoint, and you can move it around.

    #2
    I don't think you can. In this mode TGP is slaved to Mav, not the other way round. So make MAV a SOI and slew it directly.

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      #3
      Originally posted by some1 View Post
      I don't think you can. In this mode TGP is slaved to Mav, not the other way round. So make MAV a SOI and slew it directly.
      Thanks for the reply, but

      When in VIS, the TPOD doesn't move once the HUD is not SOI, it doesn't follow the Mav seeker when that is SOI.

      It is also the same in BORE mode, from BORE you can select the MAV as SOI and then slew it around, but not the TPOD, it doesn't make sense, there must be something wrong with it surely. Every other aircraft it is possible to do that.
      Last edited 09-23-2020, 07:23 PM.

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        #4
        I think that you need to be in pre planed mode, watch the video

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          #5
          Originally posted by Furiz View Post
          I think that you need to be in pre planed mode, watch the video
          I did, and yes that works ok.

          So there's no other way of using the TPOD in the F16 to look for targets like you can in the F18 and A10C?

          That has to be a missing feature right?

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            #6
            No there is not. As long as we don't have the Mark Points in Viper.

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              #7
              If you can VID a target, VIS mode is the fastest to shoot a MAV.

              And about the TGP, nope, MAV slave to SPI in PRE mode, not the opposite.
              U will need the MARK function(which haven't come online yet) to designate a visual point and make it SPI (for further engagement or DL to others).
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                #8
                Originally posted by jonsky7 View Post
                Thanks for the reply, but

                When in VIS, the TPOD doesn't move once the HUD is not SOI, it doesn't follow the Mav seeker when that is SOI.

                It is also the same in BORE mode, from BORE you can select the MAV as SOI and then slew it around, but not the TPOD, it doesn't make sense, there must be something wrong with it surely. Every other aircraft it is possible to do that.
                Assuming you have a waypoint nearby start in pre plan mode with tgp and mav slaved to it. Toggle your MFD to something other than the weapon page so TGP is visible but mav isn't. With TGP as SOI you can now slew around to find a target of opportunity. The mav will remain slaved to TGP (within gimble limit)
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                  #9
                  Until boresight is implemented using the TGP to hit things with mav's is going to be rough. Right now the mav has no idea where the tgp is looking so it can't follow it. However the MAV G works correctly but the D's do not. Once boresight is implemented you can find target with TGP handoff to the mav switch to another mav on a different target and handoff to that one. Ultimately you could ripple all 6 mav's on different targets doing this. Will it ever work this way in DCS though I doubt it.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by hawk4me View Post
                    Until boresight is implemented using the TGP to hit things with mav's is going to be rough. Right now the mav has no idea where the tgp is looking so it can't follow it. However the MAV G works correctly but the D's do not. Once boresight is implemented you can find target with TGP handoff to the mav switch to another mav on a different target and handoff to that one. Ultimately you could ripple all 6 mav's on different targets doing this. Will it ever work this way in DCS though I doubt it.
                    I used the D yesterday and it followed the TGP just fine in PRE mode (within gimbal limits of course).
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                      #11
                      Hawk4me

                      I packed a bunch of 65Ds yesterday and they slaved to the TPOD perfectly. What's missing is the BS feature on the MAV WPN page.

                      What's your source for being able to ripple 6 MAVs? IIRC you can only select individual stations, not weapons, so you'd only be able to ripple 2 at any time (since we don't have inboard 65s).

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                        #12
                        I've been seriously spoiled by the Hornet. A little more tricksy to use them off the Falcon.

                        I'm starting without the targeting pod, to keep it simple. I have issues actually locking the D. Don't think TMS Up does it.

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                          #13
                          To elaborate on my post I think you are correct that you can ripple 2 right away after the first 2 you would need mark points for the other's to slave quickly lock and fire. Sort of the same way they work in the A10 using mark points. Pretty sure you cannot select additional mav's on the same station as they are selected by the rack itself to prevent mav's hitting eachother coming off the rail.

                          Im not sure how your D's are following your TGP cause I can't even move my tgp in PRE mode until I TMS up which performs a handoff. After that doing a TMS Up shows hand off in progress but the seeker head doesn't move on the MAV. On some I have been able to get it to work by doing TMS up repeatedly until the seeker line's up. Other time's it just sits there. I've had it lock up a target then go after the original hand off point so something's not working right for sure. Technically though it shouldn't follow the TGP until they have been boresighted.
                          Last edited 09-24-2020, 01:20 PM.

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                          • Droning_On
                            Droning_On commented
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                            you can only ripple 2 Mav's when you have a single on each station. it doesnt work with the Lau-88 launcher rack.

                          #14
                          Originally posted by hawk4me View Post
                          To elaborate on my post I think you are correct that you can ripple 2 right away after the first 2 you would need mark points for the other's to slave quickly lock and fire. Sort of the same way they work in the A10 using mark points. Pretty sure you cannot select additional mav's on the same station as they are selected by the rack itself to prevent mav's hitting eachother coming off the rail.

                          Im not sure how your D's are following your TGP cause I can't even move my tgp in PRE mode until I TMS up which performs a handoff. After that doing a TMS Up shows hand off in progress but the seeker head doesn't move on the MAV. On some I have been able to get it to work by doing TMS up repeatedly until the seeker line's up. Other time's it just sits there. I've had it lock up a target then go after the original hand off point so something's not working right for sure. Technically though it shouldn't follow the TGP until they have been boresighted.
                          I had problems with the "pre mode" as well. First attack works without any problems, but from the second run on the mav and the tpod dont align anymore. You can see it in the HUD as well, that tpod is looking (and locking) somewhere else as the Mav.
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                            #15
                            AGM-65 PRE mode - HUD based TGP slew?

                            Let's assume that there is a target somewhere in front of me. But I don't have any steerpoints near there. I have TGP and AGM-65s loaded. I want to target that area with TGP using the HUD to find its whereabouts, and locate a ground vehicle with TGP, use the handoff to lock Maverick in PRE mode.

                            The main problem here is that in PRE mode I can not make the TGP look to where I want it to. If I didn't have AGM-65s and I would be in CCRP mode, I can make the HUD SOI and locate anywhere I see on the HUD, and TGP would look there.

                            I tried using SP mode of the TGP, but the HUD symbology won't move/show any marker, so I cannot know where the TGP is pointing with respect to HUD.

                            One solution is using the VIS mode and forget about the TGP and handoff. But that's not the point.

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                              #16


                              Wags video may help some of you

                              thanks


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                                #17
                                @jonsky7 In VIS mode you are not intended to use TPOD so it is normal that it does not move. You are using your visual reference on the HUD and the Maverick seeker. Boresight is the same, except that your crosshair is stabilized on the HUD instead of the ground while the target is unlocked. The only mode where TPOD is useful is the PRE mode. If you have a steerpoint there, in PRE mode is quite easy as shown in ED's video. If you don't have any steerpoints there, I don't know how it is done.

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                                  #18
                                  I think maverick slew is too sensitive and fast. can we reduce it?
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                                    #19
                                    Originally posted by Zad Fnark View Post
                                    Don't think TMS Up does it.
                                    It does. Make sure you're in seeker range <9nm and have the WPN page as SOI.
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                                      #20
                                      Originally posted by Viking 1-1 View Post
                                      I had problems with the "pre mode" as well. First attack works without any problems, but from the second run on the mav and the tpod dont align anymore. You can see it in the HUD as well, that tpod is looking (and locking) somewhere else as the Mav.
                                      Yes I've had that too, think that was solved by setting Mav as SOI and TMS down twice.

                                      I also can't get the Mav-Hs to accept an automatic handoff from TGP. Also had the Mav-D get stuck in VIS mode, think I had to select Mav as SOI and TMS up or down.

                                      mavs.trk
                                      Last edited 09-24-2020, 03:56 PM.

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