Adam Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Not even sure I can get away with one upgrade yet but wishful thinking. If I can just wondering which would serve me better? Upgrading my GPU from 2080 to 3080 or upgrading my Reverb from G1 to G2? (Solely looking at DCS experience here). Would prefer actual reasons why and thoughts, but for those without the time - I created a poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I would wait until the higher memory varient of the 3080 is in production... I suspect it will be a better upgrade, and your 2080 will be "fine" for now the O Ly thing wrong with the 2080 is vram, and you will have the same problem with the 3080... Ymmv SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 I would wait until the higher memory varient of the 3080 is in production... I suspect it will be a better upgrade, and your 2080 will be "fine" for now the O Ly thing wrong with the 2080 is vram, and you will have the same problem with the 3080... Ymmv Hmm... good point. I saw the other thread here saying that VRAM makes a big difference with DCS. I wonder how long it will be for the 3080 'super' to come out. The 3090 is selling for almost $3kAUD (which rolls back to being around $2140 in USD. (A lot higher than the $1,499USD quoted on websites elsewhere), so that won't be an option. How long do you think we'll have to wait to see a larger VRAM 3080? I haven't followed nVidia in the past so aren't sure of what to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormeaten Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Wait for Big Navi. AMD will be finally competitive and that will affect on GPU market. Not necessary you have to buy one but wait for it definitely. You already have dissent hardware so you can wait better moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaderface Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 And G1 to G2 only makes sense if your IPD doesn´t match the fixed G1 one because the resolution is the same (better sweet spot and colours on the new lenses and panels though). But you are in the need to upgrade GPU to apreciate that, so: First GPU and CPU to match and, then: wait to G3 and skip this generation. (Or save money 14 months and do the big upgrade on the next generation 5 nm CPUs + GPUs).... I will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunx Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Waiting for 3080 with more memory. Waiting for G2 material/component quality reports. ROG Z690 Hero ● i9-12900K 5.5GHz ● Giggy RTX 3090 OC ● 32GB 4800MHz ● Firecuda M.2s ● Reverb G2 ● Win11Pro //// A10CII ● AH64D ● AJS37 ● AV8BNA ● C101 ● CEII ● F16C ● F5EII ● F86F ● FA18C ● FC3 ● I16 ● KA50 ● M2000C ● MI8 ● P47D ● SA342 ● SPIT ● UH1H ● Y52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Hmm... good point. I saw the other thread here saying that VRAM makes a big difference with DCS. I wonder how long it will be for the 3080 'super' to come out. The 3090 is selling for almost $3kAUD (which rolls back to being around $2140 in USD. (A lot higher than the $1,499USD quoted on websites elsewhere), so that won't be an option. How long do you think we'll have to wait to see a larger VRAM 3080? I haven't followed nVidia in the past so aren't sure of what to expect. for clarity i bought a 3090, and i don't think im going to regret that decision, but i had been saving for the 2080ti FTW3 so the price difference was not that big ... (for me) SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglecash867 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I agree with the others about the 3080 maybe not giving you much of a performance increase. As for upgrading from a G1 to a G2, there are all kinds of good reasons to do that, but it depends on what you do with VR. I'm upgrading from the G1 to the G2 not only for the mechanical IPD adjustment, but also for the one-piece, longer, lighter cable and the improved hand controllers. I have been playing Half Life: Alyx at half resolution with my old Rift CV1 just because the Oculus Touch controllers were so much better and comfortable to use than the standard WMR controllers that came with the Reverb G1. If the G2s controllers are similar to the Oculus Touch, that's definitely a major factor for me. EVGA Z690 Classified, Intel i9 12900KS Alder Lake processor, MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6400 memory, EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB video card, Samsung 980PRO 1TB M2.2280 SSD for Windows 10 64-bit OS, Samsung 980PRO 2TB M2.2280 SSD for program files, LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray burner. HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Partridge and pear tree pending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearskin Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 If you are upgrading for better visual quality then I would go for the G2, the 2080 is capable enough to run it. If you go for the 3080 then it will not make a difference to the visual quality of the G1. You might be able to up a few settings in DCS but it is still the same headset. You probably wont be able to get the G2 until December anyway, so it gives you a bit more time to save to get you closer the 3080 down the road mate. That's just my line of thought, and the way I am probably going to go. Z790, 13700K, RTX4080, 32 gig RAM, Warthog, WarBRD base , Virpil Pedals, Pico 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motomouse Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Buy yourself a new car and enjoy your current rig :-) Your experience will only change marginally with these upgrades. I enjoy my car a lot. I stick with my 1080Ti & 3600X until 200% performance are available for a reasonable price. No, neither the 3080 or 3090 provide this. I already enjoy 90FPS modest quality/60 FPS high quality in VR. on my 1080Ti. Even a 3090 would not be good for 180 FPS in VR with current CPUs. A G2 is a very nice headset, but so is the G1. If you don't own a G1, go for a G2, else stay calm. Edited October 2, 2020 by Motomouse 1 VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekbull Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 From what I've seen there is plenty reason to go from a G1 to a G2. Yes the resolution is the same but the lenses on the G2 are supposed to be superior and much clearer. So you should see a clearer image. That in itself is reason enough, but that's not the only reason with the improvements all around the system. With that said I have a 8K-X on order that is supposed to come in sometime in Oct...I'll be seeing if that is a big enough improvement over my G1 Pro to keep or if I'm going to sell and go G2 because I've been very happy with my G1. Also, most likely going with a 3090 when I can find one and considering a system update to a 10900K...guess we'll see but I usually update the rig every 2 to 3 years... AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASUS Crosshair Hero X670E | 64GB G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000 | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE| Samsung EVO Plus 6 TB M.2 PCIe SSDs | TM Hornet Stick/WinWing Hornet Throttle and MIP | VPC T-50 Stick Base | TM TPR Rudder Pedals W/Damper | Varjo Aero/Pimax Crystal VFA-25 Fist of the Fleet Carrier Strike Group One(CSG-1) Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motomouse Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 lenses for 500 bucks, I pass VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekbull Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 lenses for 500 bucks, I pass It's certainly not for everyone. But if it's clearer it's certainly worth $600 to me. But I'll see how the 8K-X treats me first. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASUS Crosshair Hero X670E | 64GB G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000 | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE| Samsung EVO Plus 6 TB M.2 PCIe SSDs | TM Hornet Stick/WinWing Hornet Throttle and MIP | VPC T-50 Stick Base | TM TPR Rudder Pedals W/Damper | Varjo Aero/Pimax Crystal VFA-25 Fist of the Fleet Carrier Strike Group One(CSG-1) Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessuno0505 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Higher memory variant of the 30xx cards is just a rumor (and also quite unrealistic imho); nevertheless my vote Is for "other": g1 and g2 share resolution, so it's better to change vga, but it's even better to wait for big navi, just to compare and decide. Edited October 2, 2020 by nessuno0505 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Not even sure I can get away with one upgrade yet but wishful thinking. If I can just wondering which would serve me better? Upgrading my GPU from 2080 to 3080 or upgrading my Reverb from G1 to G2? (Solely looking at DCS experience here). Would prefer actual reasons why and thoughts, but for those without the time - I created a poll. G1 to G2 should be marginal upgrade. The latest YT videos seems to show better VR experience than most people thought. So I would prioritize GPU upgrade over G1 to G2. Either way, you're going to wait (for more VRAM NVDA, or Navi/AMD, or for G1 to G2 reviews) so looks like you'll benefit. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormeaten Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Higher memory variant of the 30xx cards is just a rumor (and also quite unrealistic imho); nevertheless my vote Is for "other": g1 and g2 share resolution, so it's better to change vga, but it's even better to wait for big navi, just to compare and decide. One month ago 3080 was rumor too and when I announce it people laughing at me and say it is just a rumor. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 When I fly I have no trouble spotting in vr, vid is a pain in the ass, but spotting is fine. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIXEN413 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I m doing both upgrades soon or later. G2 on preorder. Waiting to see the 20go vram 3080 to get an idea... Thing is, neither of these upgrade will provide such an amazing boost of performance to what I run at the moment as long as the code is not improved for VR performance... An optimisation from ED, switch to Vulcan, Support multi threading etc etc will give us way better perfs then hardware upgrades IMO.... Time will tell... Rig: MB Gigabite z390UD, CPU Intel I7 8700k, RAM 32G DDR4 3200 Gskill ripjaws, GPU MSI RTX2080SuperOC, HDD Crucial mx500 1tb M2 sata, PSU Corsair 850W, watercooling Corsair h100, Controlers TM f/a 18 stick on Virpil warbrd base, TM cougar f16 stick on cougar base, Cougar F16 throttle on TUSBA, ch pedals, TM cougar MFD 27" monitor with trk IR 5 and HP Reverb HMD. Modules F18, F16, F86, Mig15, FW 190D9, Nellis range map, Aggr campaign, Middle East map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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