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    #61
    I don't like this new look.
    Some of the implemented new features are really useful, but the new look? That's a solid no for me if it counts at all.
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      #62
      Damn, I'm kinda speechless (in a negative way). I just came here to check the latest posts I missed and saw this new forum which looks like an accident. Besides looking absolutely horrible it is a pain in the *** to use on a desktop PC. How the hell can I see all the posts I missed since my last visit???

      Edit: I figured out how to tailor the advanced search to get the latest posts, but this is incredibly cumbersome compared to the single click it was before...
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        #63
        Originally posted by sirrah View Post

        In addition; I mostly browse this forum on my mobile (Android) and the main forum menu has improved imo.
        Holy cow!

        I never bothered reading the forum during a commute because it was just totally unusable on my small-ish old-ish Android phone. The new version is a MASSIVE improvement for mobile!

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          #64
          Ugly and difficult to understand. ED, please, how come you changed something that was fine and hardly anyone complained about?
          Before it was all clear with a single glance: subscribed threads, updated threads, we could jump to the first unread message ... now it's a real drama ... and we waste a lot of time. So, please, REVERSE.

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            #65
            Where is the "New Post" Functionality...literally the main thing I use (My Forum landing Page was "New Posts"
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              #66
              Looks terrible if I'm honest.

              Massive waste of space on the sides, styling is pretty bad too. It looks like a very mid 2000's default skin forum now.

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                #67
                Agree with most here....

                Please roll back to the old style, It had character, not to mention was much easier on the eyes and straight forward to navigate around.

                This new forum has none! Why change something that wasn't broke? I bet we don't get the busted Christmas lights on this one either!
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Yurgon View Post

                  Holy cow!

                  I never bothered reading the forum during a commute because it was just totally unusable on my small-ish old-ish Android phone. The new version is a MASSIVE improvement for mobile!
                  This seems to be the main problem - to avoid having 2 sets of code they have now done well for mobiles at the expense of a great desktop experience. Good for when mobile, not so good when you are sat at your PC trying to troubleshoot issues for people
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                    #69
                    I understand all the complaints about planes now if this new forum brings this kind of reaction.
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Buzzles View Post
                      Massive waste of space on the sides [...]
                      Not anymore there isn't.

                      Just browsing the forum I'm seeing changes being implement right as we speak... errrr, write.

                      Is it really too much to ask something like "Could you have the forum use all the space on the screen? Right now space on the sides seems a bit wasted" instead of the above quote? Picking out this one example, but I'm referring to the entire thread.

                      Contrary to popular belief, I would assume that the team did not implement this change to harass any of you on a personal level. Yet the responses in this thread are so vile in nature, I just keep shaking my head. What the hell is wrong with you people?

                      Those guys that did this change are just ordinary human beings (at least I'm working under that assumption ).

                      Would you like to be insulted and be told that your work is just horrible by complete strangers who formed an opinion in all of 3 hours?

                      I'm seeing very little constructive criticism and a lot of complaints and demands here. Some of you should really be ashamed. Try running your own forum with thousands of active users and a growing pile of requests and demands, and then as soon as you implement them, people complain that everything was fine, no one in the entire world ever asked for anything to change, and they want the old stuff back. And of course not acknowledging any of the great and useful changes that were implemented at the same time.

                      Getting pretty sick of what has become of this community.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by hornblower793 View Post

                        This seems to be the main problem - to avoid having 2 sets of code they have now done well for mobiles at the expense of a great desktop experience. Good for when mobile, not so good when you are sat at your PC trying to troubleshoot issues for people
                        I'm assuming this was not just a facelift. It's probably an upgrade to the underlying software, which, if I had to guess, was very long overdue.

                        Nowadays, webdesign must be compatible with mobile. There's just no 2 ways about it. It's a requirement.

                        That means the old skin can't just be ported over without any hitch or hassle. Maybe someone will create a new skin that resembles the old one, but that's probably going to be a lot of work.

                        What I'm seeing in terms of functionality, a lot has changed under the hood. At first glance, I'm missing a few features that I was used to, but I'm also seeing many new features that I've wished for for a long time, some I didn't even know were possible, and all things considered I'm really liking what I'm seeing, using the same desktop I used yesterday.

                        Seeing as some of the issues mentioned in this thread have already been addressed, the team are probably reading these threads and taking the positive and good ideas and implementing them. I wouldn't be surprised if the "New Posts" function makes a great entrance quickly, because that was indeed very useful.

                        Anyway, I really don't see an issue troubleshooting issues for people because of the new forum. Most of the complaints in this thread have been about convenience and quality-of-life features, as far as I can tell at this point.

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                          #72
                          Usually you should give new changes some time and give it a chance to adapt.

                          But right now I would go for the old forum all the way, by far.
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                            #73
                            I guess the change was required, BUT, poorly communicated.
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Yurgon View Post
                              Those guys that did this change are just ordinary human beings (at least I'm working under that assumption ).

                              Would you like to be insulted and be told that your work is just horrible by complete strangers who formed an opinion in all of 3 hours?

                              I'm seeing very little constructive criticism and a lot of complaints and demands here. Some of you should really be ashamed. Try running your own forum with thousands of active users and a growing pile of requests and demands, and then as soon as you implement them, people complain that everything was fine, no one in the entire world ever asked for anything to change, and they want the old stuff back. And of course not acknowledging any of the great and useful changes that were implemented at the same time.

                              Getting pretty sick of what has become of this community.
                              Pfft, get off your high horse. I don't remember seeing any massive or frequent threads in this comment section specifically about the forum demanding a complete revamp.
                              And yes, you publish something on the web, or hell, in public, you sure as hell are gonna get told it's horrible by complete strangers and get insulted. There's nothing new here about that.

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                                #75
                                I'll give it some time and see if I like it better then. I'm on a pc, never read this forum on a mobile...
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                                  #76
                                  Definitely not a fan of this new format but, like some others in here have mentioned, it was most likely done out of necessity and not just so some FNG at ED could put their finger print on it and claim that they are doing something! It is what it is.
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                                    #77
                                    Not a fan of this new format.
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                                      #78
                                      The new forum theme and layout... meh. However, I can't believe there is no clear indication to find the threads with new posts.

                                      Seems sorted now.

                                      Still not a fan of the new theme, "shrug" it is what it is.
                                      Last edited 10-20-2020, 09:41 PM.
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                                        #79
                                        not a fan of the new forum


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                                          #80
                                          It's still awful, but it started out worse. There are still many issues, the board list looks horrible, there's no easy way to skip to the last page of a thread, and I'm getting this annoying "flicker" when the window can't decide how many lines it should have. If they can get us the old layout back, or something close to it, I'll be happy.

                                          Mobile might be a requirement, but for a community like that, widescreen is important, too. We're flightsimmers, you know, the people with multiple 4K screens, top-line PCs and all that jazz! Nobody's flying this thing on a laptop or mobile. Some fly VR, like me, but I bet they all have a decent sized screen, too, like I do.

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