jsk Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Hi! I got my Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog #625 on 12.11.2010 and it went dead 15.11.2010. Problem seems to be that Windows cant find HOTAS anymore (HOTAS Bootloader). On simhq forum there were similiar problems. It seems to be firmware related. http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3135513/Re_Thrustmaster_HOTAS_Warthog_.html Hopefully they soon release firmware update or ill return this and buy saitek. Br jsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassata Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Good to know a solution maybe on the way. I wonder if the same sort of thing maybe available for MFDs that have died. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofie_59 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Hi! I got my Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog #625 on 12.11.2010 and it went dead 15.11.2010. Problem seems to be that Windows cant find HOTAS anymore (HOTAS Bootloader). On simhq forum there were similiar problems. It seems to be firmware related. http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3135513/Re_Thrustmaster_HOTAS_Warthog_.html Hopefully they soon release firmware update or ill return this and buy saitek. Br jsk Meybe you can try and send" Feed" over at simhq a pm And hopefully he can send you the update and some instruction on what to do!(If not the update is to big) MB:MSI X79A-GD45 CPU:Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz Ram:16 gb Grafik :GTX 680 Sli Win 7 64 bit 1200 W 2 ssd 120 gb 1 2 TB western Digital Caviar Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsk Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Yeah hopefully firmware fixes everything.. To clarify that the joystick functions ok but the throttle is dead. No lights and no responce (except when I plug usb back in tries to find a driver which it find (Hotas Bootloader)). Great times for 3 days :) Biggest thing that sucks that if I need to return this ill have to wait new unit for ages. build quality otherwise superior. jsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 ouch. Hope you get it working soon! ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jg2001_Rasputin Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Happend to me aswell. Contacted support, they said it will be fixed with firmware update. Though i send it back, i dont want to have a 400€ useless piece of equipment lying in my room. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=60614 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimebag1 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Silly question, especially since I have a g940' not a warthog, but I had similar problems. Have you tried a different USB port, specifically one connected directly to your mobo, rather than a hub? Also have you tried disconnecting other USB devices that might not be as crucial, as this stick probably requires a fair amount of current. Otherwise ignore me if I am stating the obvious. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59th_Bird Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Same here, my throttle died today. Afternoon it was perfect, this evening when I started mz PC I didn! see the green lights. Damn. TM Warthog no.00128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsk Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 Sorry to hear that :joystick: I think that in all of the faulty cases it loses its bootloader/firmware when it's diconected form usb/ pc powered off. This usually happens to throttle not to stick. Still waiting for response from TM... jsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoLate Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Mine went dead too. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 It looks like it is a firmware bug and some guys at simhq were able to revive their throttles using software update provided by Thrustmaster: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3135513/123.html You should contact TM support with your problem. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callsign.Vega Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Sorry to hear that :joystick: I think that in all of the faulty cases it loses its bootloader/firmware when it's diconected form usb/ pc powered off. This usually happens to throttle not to stick. Still waiting for response from TM... jsk That doesn't make much logical sense. These sticks have sat in their boxes un-powered for months in transit and their firmware worked the first time you plugged it in. GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsk Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 (edited) yes truly illogical and mainly sad.:( from user persepctive that is what happened to me. Edited November 18, 2010 by jsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltensegler Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 At least we know the fix now...mine didn't die yet luckily. 4790K@4,6Ghz | EVGA Z97 Classified | 32GB @ 2400Mhz | Titan X hydro copper| SSD 850 PRO ____________________________________ Moments in DCS: --> https://www.youtube.com/user/weltensegLA --> WELD's cockpit: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=92274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gofrm76 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 this evening when I started mz PC I didn! see the green lights. Damn. the green lights on my warthog are illuminated permamently, even if i turn off the pc (no hibernate, no suspend). i have to plug out the warthog to make the lights go off. is that the normal behavior? AH-64D | AV-8B | A-10C II | A-4E | F-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | M-2000C | UH-1H | Mig-21bis | L-39 | F-86F | P-47D | P-51D | BF 109 | Spitfire | BS3 | FC3 | SC | CA Intel® Core™ i7-13700K | NVIDIA RTX 4090 | 64 GB DDR5 RAM | Aorus Elite Z790 | 50“ UHD LG Monitor | Windows 11 Pro VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base | VPC Apache-64 Collective Grip | VPC Hawk-60 Collective Grip | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base | TM F-16/A-10 Stick | TM F/A-18 Stick TM HOTAS Warthog (DSE Slew Upgrade) | TM Hotas Cougar (FSSB) | TM Pendular Rudder | HP Reverb G2 | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 the green lights on my warthog are illuminated permamently, even if i turn off the pc (no hibernate, no suspend). i have to plug out the warthog to make the lights go off. is that the normal behavior? Yes. Check your Bios settings if you want it to power off when the PC is turned off. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsk Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Ok Got response from TM which should reset firmware. ill post the results when I get home.. jsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succellus Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 This loss of firmware is unusual... i hope it won t be something permanent due to some chip limitation, or bad board controller implementation. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsk Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Ok Got response from TM which should reset firmware. ill post the results when I get home.. jsk Hi Throttle is working again! It needed reflashing. My advice is that contact TM from support page. I contacted with email. Response (and solution) came in 2 working days with email. Im not posting the solution because of liability. Now i need to send my flash file to TM inspection. br jsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoLate Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Yea I got the fix from TM and it did not work. So I had to send in the file from the reader utility. I am on hold. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callsign.Vega Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Yes. Check your Bios settings if you want it to power off when the PC is turned off. I have confirmed that doesn't work, at least on my machine. I have the HOTAS plugged into the same hub as other devices which all perfectly go into standby mode, besides the throttle. Sounds like a throttle firmware issue. GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I'll try it on my mobo today when i finally get the WH ;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTFDarkEagle Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Same.. Powered hub, no power off. Sobek: you got it yet? :D Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hreich Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Sorry to hear that :joystick: I think that in all of the faulty cases it loses its bootloader/firmware when it's diconected form usb/ pc powered off. This usually happens to throttle not to stick. Still waiting for response from TM... jsk Did somebody informed TH support about this issue? JSK how did you found out that when disconnecting TM warthog form powered down PC causes firmware deleting problem? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Pilot from Croatia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Same.. Powered hub, no power off. Sobek: you got it yet? :D Oh yeah :D now i just need to figure out how to assign the trim hat to trim without modifiers Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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