[ZQuickSilverZ]

I have put more thought into this and this is the conclusion I have come up with. I don't favor haptic gloves. They would be expensive and sweat would be a real problem. I think this idea is much better. How a shell with space for side panels, front panel, overhead panel, and left and right rear panels. Perhaps the shell can have plastic panels that snap in to change the layout if need be. Like the aircraft may have a vertical and horizonal side panel for instance whereas another might just be vertical. This would be a neat customizable feature. The plastic panels would be blank with a connector on each panel. You could then print control areas on cardboard and put pressure plates on the back of the cardboard. Possibly touch pads for areas where the function would be needed. I dont think a 2 posiion switch needs a touchpad for direction why not just push it. It is the same effect and cheaper. Maybee use touchpads for knobs and multi position switches (like the nav lights on the shark). After you attach the plates and wire chaseways to the board you laminate it. You can have a controller card do all the functions to keep from having to put a circuit card on the control panel. This would have the effect of being customizable, cheap, and having specific cockpit layouts. Once you got the shell it would be alot cheaper cuase then you only need the panel inlays if you switch aircraft. That would keep you from having to wear a device on your body. Also with gloves you would need 2 anyway because if you don't your reaching over yourself to control the opposite panel. If someone was just REALLY dedicated to one aircraft they could always add screens for certain things (shkvall, abris, ) by cutting into the plastic shell and mounting them. Say the panel has abris controls already. It would be easy enouph to sever the wire paths to mount the touchscreen. After all were talking about super thin metal, cardboard, and laminate. They could design them with breakoff points to make mounting easier. Also another cool thing about the shell is you could install speakers to it for surround sound. Do you guys think this would be a workable solution to a poor mans cockpit? Tell me how you would improve it. Tell me problems that it might have.

[Flyingaustrich]

@ Blaze1

I´m thinking about covering the hole screen withe a plasicglass to save it. Exept the lower frame because of the buttons.

[average_pilot]

Originally Posted by ZQuickSilverZ

average pilot what brand and model are you using?

emagin z800

[CyBerkut]

Corrections to my post in #63. The gentleman's name is Waxer, and his threads on his 8 touchscreen cockpit are over on the TouchBuddy forum and on his squadron's forum:

http://www.touch-buddy.com/forums/pu...-underway.html

http://www.72ndvfw.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5180

Definitely worth a look.

[Blaze1]

Originally Posted by Flyingaustrich

@ Blaze1

I´m thinking about covering the hole screen withe a plasicglass to save it. Exept the lower frame because of the buttons.

Post an update of how you get on with this please
BTW, do you think changing the type of switch used may help?

[Blaze1]

Originally Posted by CyBerkut

Corrections to my post in #63. The gentleman's name is Waxer, and his threads on his 8 touchscreen cockpit are over on the TouchBuddy forum and on his squadron's forum:

http://www.touch-buddy.com/forums/pu...-underway.html

http://www.72ndvfw.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5180

Definitely worth a look.

Thats impressive.

[Blaze1]

Originally Posted by ZQuickSilverZ

I have put more thought into this and this is the conclusion I have come up with. I don't favor haptic gloves. They would be expensive and sweat would be a real problem. I think this idea is much better. How a shell with space for side panels, front panel, overhead panel, and left and right rear panels. Perhaps the shell can have plastic panels that snap in to change the layout if need be. Like the aircraft may have a vertical and horizonal side panel for instance whereas another might just be vertical. This would be a neat customizable feature. The plastic panels would be blank with a connector on each panel. You could then print control areas on cardboard and put pressure plates on the back of the cardboard. Possibly touch pads for areas where the function would be needed. I dont think a 2 posiion switch needs a touchpad for direction why not just push it. It is the same effect and cheaper. Maybee use touchpads for knobs and multi position switches (like the nav lights on the shark). After you attach the plates and wire chaseways to the board you laminate it. You can have a controller card do all the functions to keep from having to put a circuit card on the control panel. This would have the effect of being customizable, cheap, and having specific cockpit layouts. Once you got the shell it would be alot cheaper cuase then you only need the panel inlays if you switch aircraft. That would keep you from having to wear a device on your body. Also with gloves you would need 2 anyway because if you don't your reaching over yourself to control the opposite panel. If someone was just REALLY dedicated to one aircraft they could always add screens for certain things (shkvall, abris, ) by cutting into the plastic shell and mounting them. Say the panel has abris controls already. It would be easy enouph to sever the wire paths to mount the touchscreen. After all were talking about super thin metal, cardboard, and laminate. They could design them with breakoff points to make mounting easier. Also another cool thing about the shell is you could install speakers to it for surround sound. Do you guys think this would be a workable solution to a poor mans cockpit? Tell me how you would improve it. Tell me problems that it might have.

I think this idea is very similar to the touchscreen method used in the links provided by CyBerkut here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...1&postcount=74

Regarding using the haptic gloves. The gloves don't need to be of the haptic type, they could simply be open and of a netted mesh fabric to allow the skin to breath. The most important thing it that the gloves house the multiple 'pick-up' points securely. The haptic technology could actually be moved from the gloves to the sensor panels I mentioned earlier. The effect would remain almost identical.

[shamandgg]

IMHO such gloves are pointless if you can have a large high quality LCD screen with multi-touch support for 300 USD.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...8-4031739.html

[average_pilot]

Originally Posted by shamandgg

IMHO such gloves are pointless if you can have a large high quality LCD screen with multi-touch support for 300 USD.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...8-4031739.html

It's pointless because each solution belong to completely different setups. Touch screens are an excellent extension of a traditional setup and data gloves are for the permanently poisoned virtual reality.

[Blaze1]

Originally Posted by average_pilot

data gloves are for the permanently poisoned virtual reality.

What do you mean by 'poisoned virtual reality'?