Close Combat Modes.

Okay Folks. I am coding the last modes for the radar and with it comes a reconfiguration of the Close Combat Mode, that includes the keyboard/joystick binding.

The CCM now officially works with Magic IIs (MAG), Super 530D (530) and guns (CAN).

Button #5 in the Throttle is called PIP. When the system is in Air-to-Air mode, it controls the CCM radar modes.

It works as follow:

PIP - Forward (cycles):

1st. Click: Boresight Mode (Any weapon).

2nd. Click: Vertical Scan (MAG & CAN) / HUD Search (530).

PIP - Back (cycles):

1st. Click: Horizontal Scan Mode 1 (Any weapon).

2nd. Click: Horizontal Scan Mode 2 (Any weapon).

You already know how Horizontal Scan, Boresight and Vertical Scan work.

HUD Scan is a special mode that only works with the Super 530D. What it does is that the radar antenna covers the entire HUD area (a 20º cone) in front of the aircraft. In other words, it is a special boresight mode for the Super 530Ds.

Horizontal Scan Mode 1 and Mode 2 work the same. The only difference is that the radar in Mode 1 uses High PRF and in Mode 2 uses Medium PRF. As soon as a contact is locked, the radar automatically changes to High PRF. Medium PRF is not available anywhere else except on Horizontal Scan Mode 2.

PIP Down = Target Unlock.

The PIP button also has functionality when the system is in AG mode, but that is another issue that we will inform you in due time.

My problem, for which I need your help is this:

These keybinds are going to disappear from the HOTAS category:

• Close Air Combat Mode SELECT : will become PIP Forward.
  
• Special Modes DESELECT : Not required anymore. Target unlock will deactivate CCM if there is no locked target.
  
• Ground Avoidance Mode SELECT : will become PIP Back.
  

I need your help in finding what to call both PIP Forward and PIP Back.

Edited to add:

I think these could work:

Special Modes FWD and Special Modes AFT.

After all the PIP also has AG functions.

What about calling em` PIP Forward and PIP Backward ???

^^ sounds good to me!

PIP Forward and PIP Backward works for me too.

What about PIPin and PIPout?

:music_whistling:

Are you sure?

That was my first idea, but calling them PIP Forward and PIP Backward does not intuitively give you the functionality like 'Close Air Combat Mode Select'.

You can call them

PIP Forward - Cycle CCM Modes

PIP Back - Cycle Horizontal Modes

PIP Down - Unlock Target

Idk, sounds reasonable to me i guess

In the end it doesn't even matter if A-10C can have TMS DMS CMS and all that other stuff PIP shouldn't be a problem

How does the ground avoidance mode works?

PIP forward & PIP backward are also used in AG mode.

This is why it's better to keep generic name IMHO...

How does the ground avoidance mode works?

Doesn't work yet because no AG radar available in DCS World right now...;)

PIP forward & PIP backward are also used in AG mode.

This is why it's better to keep generic name IMHO...

This.

Doesn't work yet because no AG radar available in DCS World right now...;)

thanks!:thumbup:

That's what I thought

PIP Forward and PIP Backward works for me too.

For me, too.

Will PIP Down become the Unlock Key?

Are you sure?

That was my first idea, but calling them PIP Forward and PIP Backward does not intuitively give you the functionality like 'Close Air Combat Mode Select'.

Do not try to make the controls into a manual. Call it what is called and let the user learn what that means. E.g.

PIP Forward

PIP Aft

PIP Depress

Whatever the control is called in the manual make sure that the control label is exactly the same character to character, capitalization, punctuation and all. Your users will learn the airplane that you make. Trust them.

PIP Forward

PIP Backward

PIP Depress

would be fine, I guess. The A-10C uses the same notation (boat switch, china hat, etc.). But Zeus' suggestion in his edit of his original posting would work as well.

Only one question for me remains ... what does PIP stand for anyways? :o)

How do you select mag, can or 530 in CCM? Is the PIP Left still for Mag/Can? What about 530?

Do we have to do that in the PCA?

How do you select mag, can or 530 in CCM? Is the PIP Left still for Mag/Can? What about 530?

Do we have to do that in the PCA?

PIP doesn't change weapon selection, it only change CCM radar mode, and some modes are not available for all weapons.

When are we likely to see R550 30deg x 30deg search and auto lock implemented ?

Keep it PIP , like in A10C , there is no function name only button name (chine forward , etc..)

How do you select mag, can or 530 in CCM? Is the PIP Left still for Mag/Can? What about 530?

Do we have to do that in the PCA?

The changes are not implemented yet. They will be in our development copy by tomorrow. As for when you will have them, probably on the June 3rd update.

We will not incorporate anything new on this Friday's update. We have to test new stuff and bug fixes.

:thumbup:

The changes are not implemented yet. They will be in our development copy by tomorrow. As for when you will have them, probably on the June 3rd update.

 

We will not incorporate anything new on this Friday's update. We have to test new stuff and bug fixes.

Right. And I'm looking forward to the them.

My question was about how to select weapons on the Hotas in CCM :)

Right. And I'm looking forward to the them.

My question was about how to select weapons on the Hotas in CCM :)

I answered above, weapon selection doesn't change, it's about radar mode selection...

I answered above, weapon selection doesn't change, it's about radar mode selection...

Thanks! Totally missed your answer, I dont wonder how i miss bandits. I clearly need CCM :)