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Old 04-12-2013, 02:46 PM   #1
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Lates update, June 2016:
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There will be many updates, news and pictures throughout this month, as promised. No sales yet though. I have been away from my projects for 6 months because I had some health issues to take care of. I've been putting it off all this time but I needed to deal with them now so they don't become a problem in the middle of production. In the months before that I have done more work than ever so you won't be disappointed.

This is not a 3 year old project, I should have started a new thread after I decided to manufacture my own grips, and that was in February 2015 after the first successful 3d printed prototype. Discard the last 6 months that I've been away and you have a 10-month old project.

To further explain why it takes even this long, imagine what happened to computers/cellphones in the last 20 years, compact that progress into 2 years and you can get a glimpse of what the 3d printing development is going through. Last year was the dawn of rapid manufacturing (industrial 3d printing) and each month there were giant leaps in the technology, so anything I designed to be 3d printed was outdated by the next month. Things have settled down now. Building these machines is 10x cheaper than what it was last year, they are fast enough now, with reliable and repeatable results and a wide range of materials.

So now we pick up where we left off in February 2015 regarding the grips, and December 2015 regarding the head tracking unit and panels/instruments.
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2016:
But I would like to first tackle the option of doing much more. Not because I want to sell that many, but because I have other plans too, and the less time I have to spend making grips, the more I have for my other projects, which are equally as important if not more, because that's where the low prices come from. I have some final experiments to do regarding 3d printing, and if I don't set everything up by June 2016, Then I will just start making them and worry about a more efficient process as I go.

2015:
Decided to go professional manufacturing. Completely re-worked 3d model and worked out electronics. Grip is ready to be manufactured in relatively low quantaties, maybe 50 units/month.







Prototype numero uno:
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:46 PM   #2
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Nice! How easily is it to make molds for pouring aluminum? I know the original is made out of resin, but it'd be awesome to feel metal in your hands...

One concern I have is the hat switches - they look like they have small throw... One of the things that makes Cougar/Warthog stand apart from the earlier TM sticks (F22 pro and etc) is the larger throw hat switches, making them feel more industrial.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:00 PM   #3
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you cant submit the design to thrustmaster?
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:21 PM   #4
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The molds are 'easy' to make if you know what you're doing

I did this to see how much it would cost if printed directly. Next I will make internal changes to the model to make it cast-able.

If the original is made out of resin, even better. I'll be buying resin casting equipment anyway. Just have to stock up on models, so I have something to work on as soon as I get it.

The switches have 8 degree throw, that comes out to 2mm at the top of the hats (in any direction). If the general opinion is that it needs more, I just put the switches deeper into the housing.

I would submit the design to TM, if they could price it less than 120$, otherwise I can make them cheaper myself. And I would have to design it to be injection molded which is not something I am farmiliar with, yet.

On the other hand I see simple extension tubes going for 120 bucks, so the joke could be on me
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:43 PM   #5
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I wouldn't mind having a 3d printed version.. it would be lighter
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What will you charge to make a F-15E stick and throttle grips? I might be able to do the electronics myself (not rely on thrustmaster).
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This is what I know for sure. 250$ per piece if printed from an online printing service. With the throttles, probably around 400$.

When I make my own 3d printer, for 400-600$ I would include a whole set, including 4-8 different stick and throttle grips.
'Cause in the model above, there is 6-8$ worth of plastic, whether printed or cast.

Oh and forgot to mention, the buttons and switches in the above model are good quality, 5-6$ a piece. The buttons have a 5N operating force.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:40 PM   #8
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For $120,I'd be interested.
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For $120 I'd want metal/aluminum Don't mind assembling parts myself though!
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I wouldn't mind it at 120$ either. Good price for a replacement grip.
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