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WildBillKelsoe

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I am interested in buying one of them but the biggest problem I have with UH-1H is rudder and CH is sort of good but I want true precision. I'm also buying warthog extensions for fuller control.

 

I just want to know the yaw control precision compared to MFG crosswinds as I intend to specialise in helicopters in DCS, namely, UH-1H.

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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No vkb pedals here, but I am interested in how you like the warthog for control? I'm currently looking to upgrade from my X52...trying to deceive between x56 and TM. I just know TM can be really stiff..

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Good luck finding someone that has tried both.

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No vkb pedals here, but I am interested in how you like the warthog for control? I'm currently looking to upgrade from my X52...trying to deceive between x56 and TM. I just know TM can be really stiff..

 

From some reviews on the stick without extensions, it appears a little useful. It is precise but adding extensions really helps with finer control because of the large resolution being finely controlled with a longer arm (moment distance is increased). This applies to A-10C especially for aerial refueling.

 

For stiffness there is a way to lubricate the gimbals and this reportedly reduces the friction but I'm chickenshit when it comes to opening things up.

 

Also, the addition of a long arm fulcrum (extension) requires sometimes raising your elbow unless its floor mount or the base is on the calf muscle level. Depends on the availability of resources around you. In egypt I can send my mount chair to a carpenter and ask them to lower the base for the stick base.

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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Good luck finding someone that has tried both.

 

Thanks cichlid

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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WildBillKelsoe,

Can you define what you mean by true precision? Komodo also makes chopper specific stuff. I only have the MFG so I can only speak to that. I can tell you that you can make it as loose or tight as you want. And speaking as a user, it seems very precise. But I'm not sure what you're after.

 

Also, you *have* one of the F18 grips by HEGYKC? Do tell! :)

 

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I am after full rudder expression

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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Still not too sure what that means. But the MFGs are precise and you can exert as much tension as you want. I keep my pedals loose because I use it for Huey mostly, and A10/P51. I can tell you that MFGs are very well manufactured and works wonderfully well with Huey.

 

The only thing that I did was to raise the angle of the pedals to be a bit steeper. It was more comfortable for me.

 

Long winded way of saying, you probably can't go wrong with MFGs

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MFG, Slaw, VKB use the same mechanics principle to center the pedals, one spring per axis CAM.

 

All are based on parallelogram movement - the difference is VKB do this vertically.

 

BTW - If instead horizontally - good because the pedal don't slip like the others - place VKB T-Rudder horizontally (need some kind of support) will work back and forth like helicopters pedals.

 

In all of this pedals, the precision - 12, 14 bits - is more that your brain/legs/foots can handle. :)

 

On the other side the obsolete resolution - 8 bits, 256 points (standard for 2000) - that still in use by CH Products can be noticed with this more sophisticated FM of today flight sims.

 

All use advanced contactless sensors, Slaw and VKB GMR sensors, technically more advanced than HALL sensor (MFG), but in practice one don't notice differences.

 

I use T-Rudder, so can't answer your OP question objectively. :)

 

I think that for one used to rudder pedal with back and forth movement will be problematic get used with VKB system.

I have no problem, my previous rudder pedal was a old Tm RCS (through USB) that despite by "high end" at time use a very "Saitek" mechanism and slip all over place when used. :P


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Sokol thank you for your feedback, could you post a video side to side rudder axis with real axis for comparison? preferably in UH-1H and in taxiway taxiing so I see the effect?

 

Also, I think VKB if put diagonally and you say works like copter that means my legs move a little up and down and not forward and backward. I have CH pro rudder it is good except I dont like the footings as huey has no toe brakes so sometimes I end up having unwanted axis movements and I want just for huey so I think I go with VKB.

 

one question, does VKB have rubber grips under base because I have wooden floor (polished) so it may slide unless I put like heavy shoebox behind it next to wall if it does not have rubber stops or grips.

AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS

 

Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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Thanks for the link Sniper

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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they are interfaced to usb through ethernet

 

 

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AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS

 

Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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