hughlb Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 How do people best manage their multiple flight sim peripherals? I have used up all available ports on my motherboard, so I might have to get a USB hub. I have heard that USB hubs aren't great for plugging peripherals into.. so what do people do? Also, I have a 650 watt PSU, an I'm wondering how many peripherals I can add before I start to run into power problems. Any thoughts? | Windows 10 | I7 4790K @ 4.4ghz | Asus PG348Q | Asus Strix 1080TI | 16GB Corsair Vengeance 2400 DDR3 | Asrock Fatal1ty Z97 | Samsung EVO 850 500GB (x2) | SanDisk 240GB Extreme Pro | Coolermaster Vanguard S 650Watt 80+ | Fractal Design R4 | VirPil T-50 | MFG Crosswind Graphite | KW-908 JetSeat Sim Edition | TrackIR 5 | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSFIan Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 The power that can be drawn from a USB port is limited by the USB specification. Your power supply has nothing to do with that. USB 2.0 can provide a maximum of 500 mA per port. If you connect an unpowered hub, that 500 mA has to be shared by all devices connected to that hub. If the hub is powered, each of its ports can draw the full 500 mA. USB devices will negotiate with the host PC about the power they want to draw. If the host PC decides that the current topology cannot supply enough power (say you have an unpowered 4-port hub that is already powering two devices at 200 mA each and you connect a new device that wants 150 mA), the new device must enter a sleep mode. Most USB devices need less than 100 mA. If they have backlighting or motors (hard drives), they probably need more. Assuming that you use enough powered hubs, how many devices can you connect? In theory up to 127 per root controller (i.e. per port on your motherboard), and hubs also count as devices. In practice, I have read about people having problems much earlier, at about 20 devices. DCS-BIOS | How to export CMSP, RWR, etc. through MonitorSetup.lua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtnbiker1998 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I've got 3 powered 4 port hubs plugged into my laptop for all my perepherals, have had no problems. I have all of them stacked on top of each other, its quite a funny sight! Come fly with me, lets fly, lets fly away! -Sinatra [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Specs: Lenovo Y50 with GTX 860m (2GB), i7 4700HQ 2.4GHz, 8GB Ram. Corsair K70(MX Blues are awesome!), Benq GW2760HS monitor, Steelseries V3 Prism headset, TM Warthog Hotas, Sidewinder FFB2 W/ FLCS grip, CH Pro pedals, TrackIR5, KW-908 Jetseat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I have used a powered USB 2 hub for a few years now, plug all my periphs into it - never had an issue using it that way. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 The key to hubs is having them have decent power supplies of their own. The standard specifies the max power the port can provide but not all powered hubs are capable of providing full power on all ports simultaneously. Make sure the current supplied by the hub's brick is adequate for the number of ports. I have lost count of how many USB 2 and 3.0 hubs that I own and use. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giei Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Orico A3H7 I'm using it with 5 arduino custom button boxes and X55 I'm flying since 1988 (Flight Simulator 3.0) :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Orico A3H7 I'm using it with 5 arduino custom button boxes and X55 Looks like a very nice powered hub, a 4A output is impressive. I think I will pop the wallet for this. HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. OpenXR, Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC. Vaicom user. Virpil Mongoose base CM3 & Mongoose stick CM2 (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS with apache Grip. MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) I see a 2.5 amp power supply on Amazon, which is a bit low for 7 ports. http://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Aluminum-12V2-5A-Adapter-3-3Ft/dp/B00C93DDJG EDIT: I do see a 4 port with the same 2.5 amp supply. That one I would be willing to buy. Edited May 24, 2016 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aluminum-powered-laptop-master-Silver/dp/B00IJOL88C/280-9351379-6340028?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0 what do you think of this one? I see no reason not to use a 3.0 with a 2.0 device as it is only the current that is different, which is fine. Is the data rate a problem? Edited May 24, 2016 by Rogue Trooper HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. OpenXR, Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC. Vaicom user. Virpil Mongoose base CM3 & Mongoose stick CM2 (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS with apache Grip. MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 If the specs are correct, then it is a good buy. Anything that can provide at .5 amps per port should be fine, IMHO. Using 3.0 ports with 2.0 devices is fine, in most cases. There are some pieces of USB 2 hardware out there that don't seem to like being plugged into USB 3.0 ports but most should be fine. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 thanks, wallet out and open. HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. OpenXR, Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC. Vaicom user. Virpil Mongoose base CM3 & Mongoose stick CM2 (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS with apache Grip. MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aluminum-powered-laptop-master-Silver/dp/B00IJOL88C/280-9351379-6340028?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0 what do you think of this one? I see no reason not to use a 3.0 with a 2.0 device as it is only the current that is different, which is fine. Is the data rate a problem? I use many 2.0 hubs (powered and non-powered) and they all work fine. I have Lilliputs connected to powered 2.0 hubs. TM HOTAS connected to 2.0 non-powered hubs. Komodo's to 2.0 powered hubs. etc. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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