DCS WWII Rewards

Sorry if I'm being too dense... what about the alpha for planes?

There's going to be a beta for planes?

Just curiosity.

Thanks to ED, anyway.

Smart choice.

Just a note here that it seems after Wags revised the first post a tidbit, that there is no Alpha access for any of the airplanes, only for the Normandy map (starting at $140).

It felt a little too good to be true to begin with and alpha versions are rarely any real fun in my experience...

ED is not keen about alpha access at all. If they find a way to circumvent it, they will.

And tbh, a true alpha is packed with glitches and unfinished features. I'd rather see ED honoring backers with beta access.

Hi there,

Please help me understand.

When kickstarter was open I pledged 72$. That got me all 6 planes and a tshirt (add shipping cost). Now, as I understand, this pledge gets me 3 planes and no tshirt!?

Ok,

I put in 40 US and that worked out to be around 60 odd NZD..

I do feel let down that I now will not get what I put my hard earned money into..I am not made of cash and it was a mission for me to even get that money.

without having to read over 100 posts on the subject why cant ED keep in line with the original backers items ???

I have the P51 all ready and was very excited about the other five now I can only have two

Just seems like I have had the wool pulled over my eyes :(

O_Smiladon

Sounds like I lost the extra keys intended for my brother:

Was (for 170):

All aircraft plus 2 digital copies of DCS World FW-190D-9 with beta access (when available), 2 digital copies of DCS World P-51D Mustang. Includes two invitations for ALPHA ACCESS for yourself and for your friend.

I do feel let down that I now will not get what I put my hard earned money into..I am not made of cash and it was a mission for me to even get that money.

 

without having to read over 100 posts on the subject why cant ED keep in line with the original backers items ???

To put it blunt ... if one is really short on money, it would be probably best to not put it into risky endeavours as kickstarter projects are by nature.

Regarding the "why" - this explained Wags already in the first posting (of the other thread about this topic):

After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable.

Hi there,

Please help me understand.

When kickstarter was open I pledged 72$. That got me all 6 planes and a tshirt (add shipping cost). Now, as I understand, this pledge gets me 3 planes and no tshirt!?

$60-$79

Silver Backer credit in manuals

Three aircraft of choice and print-ready PDF manual

Normandy Map

So, basically ... yes.

Sounds like I lost the extra keys intended for my brother:

 

Was (for 170):

All aircraft plus 2 digital copies of DCS World FW-190D-9 with beta access (when available), 2 digital copies of DCS World P-51D Mustang. Includes two invitations for ALPHA ACCESS for yourself and for your friend.

Technically, you get all 6 airplanes, all of them will work in DCS:World, and you get ONE additional DCS module of choice (which should include the WW2 planes), so you've got all your own personal stuff (six airplanes) and one key that you can give to your brother.

Also, if you already own the P51D, you can probably select another second copy of any of the airplanes (instead of the P51D), which you can again gift to your brother. ;)

I totally feel you. While the higher level backers have to give up a lot what was promised to them, they at least get some kind of recognition for being a backer in a project that many had doubts about. Lowest level backers were promised three planes and now get nothing at all, despite backing this RRG-ED joint venture that ED will turn into a profitable product now.

Maybe guys with pladge level in the range from 10 to $ 19 could get at least a map of Normandy? That would be something, but i know... you can always dream.

I really, really don't understand the situation, in which an extra $10 would bring me modules for around $90, and for half of that $20 pledge i will receive anything specific.

I initially pledged $40 for the flyables, but upped my pledge to $50 just to get in on Alpha (although my DCS backer page says Beta access). The 6 flyables I am not that bothered about to be honest and I always thought 6 for $50 was pushing the boundaries a bit.

But I now understand that alpha/beta is not available to me. Why? It doesn't cost anything to grant me access to alpha/beta stage so why do I now not get it? even though it was included in my pledge.

SD

Thanks Wags.

OK. It's fair. ED took the right choice to remain sustainable.

To put it blunt ... if one is really short on money, it would be probably best to not put it into risky endeavours as kickstarter projects are by nature.

 

Regarding the "why" - this explained Wags already in the first posting (of the other thread about this topic): (http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2110895&postcount=1)

Thanks for being blunt..

But I still feel let down , You do have a point. But I was happy to do so because i have all but one aircraft in DCS as well as CA. This is why i saved and browed the coin for the WW2 project because of ED name to it. not the other guy.

And that being the case I did not feel it was a risky thing because it had the ED name to it.

I suppose when the dust settles and more comes out on what happened behind closed doors I may feel better about it..

Just gutted thats all.

O_Smiladon

So I understand that kickstarter pricing was aimed at expanding customer base, but even at the end of kickstarter it was obvious the project and all possible strech goals will be backed by current dcs fan base. I would rather see this project go live even at 50% loss of rewards, but please make it final so I can enjoy the updates and not live in dread of them. At this stage I always prefer kind words to bluntness.

Bravo Wags!

ED isnt really set up well for any sort of Alpha program, I honestly never saw that happening, so no it doesnt cost anything, but having to adjust their workflow to release an Alpha version and then support updates for those is not feasible right now...

 

Also, these aircraft are so complex that I think most people would not enjoy Alpha as much as some of the common Alphas out there, they can be quite a mess in an "alpha" state.

So how come the $140 pledge get the Alpha/beta access?

SD

Thanks, let me see if i change someting or not.

I suppose when the dust settles and more comes out on what happened behind closed doors I may feel better about it..

The likely hood of you, or any of us, finding out what happened is pretty much zero.

Sithspawn,

"Veteran of the DCS WWII July update thread of Two Thousand Fourteen" :drink: ....in his signature

haha.. I hope you recover from the trauma soon. Change in profile pic is good start