beczl Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Hi, FYI. I just start the modeling the Mig-21 bis (Model 75) plane. . . . . Two Years later :-) The final model V2.1 for FC2 is available here: http://www.lockonfiles.com/index.php/files/file/1993-mig-21bis-for-flaming-cliffs-2-with-6dof-3d-cockpit-v21/ V2.11 Hotfix: http://www.lockonfiles.com/index.php/files/file/2027-mig-21bis-for-flaming-cliffs-2-with-6dof-3d-cockpit-v211-hotfix/ Skin Template: http://www.lockonfiles.com/index.php/files/file/1996-mig-21bis-for-flaming-cliffs-2-skin-template/ Edited August 29, 2011 by beczl 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 YES !!! No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kola Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 +1 2 Необходима более другая техника. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VireVolte_tigrou Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Good luck for this project,it begins well ! ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Finally! Thanks Beczl big time! Rep you forever! 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCrow Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Looks really good! :thumbup: [sIGPIC]http://www.virtualredarrows.com/member_sigs/vra2012_crow.png[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beczl Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Thanks guys. I need some information about Mig-21. (Flaps and control surfaces deflection) and so on. I looking for a docs: Методическое пособие по технике пилотирования самолета МиГ-21МФ / бис or any Mig-21 related material feel free to contact me please. Any help is appreciated. Edited March 11, 2009 by beczl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesco Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 +10, great job, beczl hope you complete the MiG-21 model the sooner the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Good job! Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker1 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) beczl, francous is working on a model of the 21-bis or/and smt too. i have already sent him a lot of biiiiig blueprints. should i send it it to you, too? for informations see also here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=36657 regards Edited March 11, 2009 by flanker1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beczl Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 beczl, francous is working on a model of the 21-bis or/and smt too. i have already sent him a lot of biiiiig blueprints. should i send it it to you, too? :thumbup: Of course you should send it to me. I'm realy sure it will be very usefull for me. Please send it to beczl@tvn.hu (5MB limit/mail) Many Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Francous has also all documents with our 3D models requirements. Unfortunately, they are in Russian. Do you need them too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boberro Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Cool, historic plane finally in game :) Thx! Edited March 11, 2009 by Boberro Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
significant Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I really love this plane! I modelled it many years ago, and fortunately it's still on my hdd:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker1 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 wow "significant", is it a 3-d model or a painting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Dude excellent work man! Keep going!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 MiG-21 is a real classic... it will be so nice flying it in formation with squad mates... No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beczl Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 Francous has also all documents with our 3D models requirements. Unfortunately, they are in Russian. Do you need them too? Yes Please. @Flaker1: I received all blueprints. Many Thanks. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Check e-mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker1 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 oh, great - because onne of them is about 7 mb i hope it would be helpful for your work. keep us updated please. :-) regards flanker1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 With all those great weapon models (unguided rockets and bombs) that came from Beczl so far I can assume this Fishbed will also be damn good model so I already started thinking which aircraft slot should be replaced with MiG-21bis! So, my guess is Su-17M4 Fitter and here's the argument why! It's withdrawn from service in Russian/Ukrainian airforce anymore and slight MEInit editcan provide accurate Vmax and ceiling to simulate real or almost real MiG-21bis performance. The only downside is the fact that replacing Fitter with Fishbed might interfere with various Airforce mods out there like Polish AF mod who still operate Su-22 but have withdrawn Fishbeds from service. So I need your opinion here, which default airplane should be replaced by Beczl's Fishbed?! Here's the Wiki fact sheet of MiG-21bis performance for MEInit edit: General characteristics Crew: 1 Length: 15.0 (with pitot) m (49 ft 2.5 in) Wingspan: 7.154 m (23 ft 5.66 in) Height: 4.125 m (13 ft 6.41 in) Wing area: 23.0 m² (247.3 ft²) Empty weight: 5,339 kg (11,770 lb) Gross weight: 8,725 kg (19,235 lb) Powerplant: 1 × Tumanskiy R25-300, 40.21 kN (9,040 lbf) thrust dry, 69.62 kN (15,650 lbf) with afterburner each Performance Maximum speed: 2,175 km/h (1,350 mph) Maximum speed: Mach 2.05 Range: (internal fuel) 1,210 km (751 miles) Service ceiling: 17,800 m (58,400 ft) Armament 1x internal GSh-23 23mm cannon, plus 2x K-13A (R-3R) or 4x Molniya R-60 AAM or 2x 500 kg (1,102 lbs) of bombs [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Crew: 1 Length: 15.0 (with pitot) m (49 ft 2.5 in) Wingspan: 7.154 m (23 ft 5.66 in) Height: 4.125 m (13 ft 6.41 in) Wing area: 23.0 m² (247.3 ft²) Empty weight: 5,339 kg (11,770 lb) Gross weight: 8,725 kg (19,235 lb) Powerplant: 1 × Tumanskiy R25-300, 40.21 kN (9,040 lbf) thrust dry, 69.62 kN (15,650 lbf) with afterburner each Performance Maximum speed: 2,175 km/h (1,350 mph) Maximum speed: Mach 2.05 Range: (internal fuel) 1,210 km (751 miles) Service ceiling: 17,800 m (58,400 ft) Armament Service ceiling: 17500, not 17800 Wingspan: 7,150, not 7,154 Gross weight: 8726, not 8725 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) Thanks Ulrich but that's what Wiki has on Mig-21bis and this is what SOKO Z.I. used for MiG-21bis addon for FS2004: Technical characteristics of the MiG-21bis fighter: Official Yugoslav RV i PVO designation: L-16 Dimensions: Length: 14,01 m. Height: 4,12 m. Width: 7,15 m. Mass: Empty: 5.843 kg*. Normal: 8.726 kg. Maximum: 10.400 kg. Max. speed: 2.175 km./h. Climbing speed: 225 m./s. Max. altitude: 17.500 m. Range: 1.505 km. Engine: Type: Tumanskiy R-25-300 Thrust (dry): 40,3 kN Thrust (with afterburner): 69,65 kN Radar: RP-22SMA Armament: up to 6 AAMs (R-3R and R-60) up to 4 rocket launchers (S-24, UV-16, UV-32, and domestic L-128-04 "Munja") up to 1.500 kg of various bombs GSh-23L twin-barreled cannon with 200 rounds of 23 mm. ammunition *Note that empty weight also differs! Edited March 13, 2009 by Vekkinho 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) Thanks Ulrich but that's what Wiki has on Mig-21bis and this is what SOKO Z.I. used for MiG-21bis addon for FS2004: The data I provided is correct. Trust me. © Height: 4,125, not Height: 4,12 Length: 14,1 without pitot, not Length: 14,01 m Edited March 13, 2009 by Ulrich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesco Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 OT: Ulrich, question on your avatar: are you sitting in the real Ka-50 Black Shark cockpit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts