outlawal2 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ahh yes here we go again... Everyone is an expert and convinced that VEAO can't provide an authentic Typhoon.. And these same experts hold up the A-10 as being the holy grail (and it is an excellent module for sure!) but there is a LOT of stuff that is simulated or completely MISSING from the A-10 and no one is the wiser. (Except for those folks that fly them in real life and they aren't talking.) Typhoon will be a very similar deal and who out there knows anything worth knowing about the Typhoon that Ells and Pman won't? (There are some, but they are real pilots, support crew etc. and just like the A-10 crews they aren't talking..) And finally, if the module is released and the quality isn't up to your personal standards of what a Typhhon ought to be.. Don't buy it.. But let's say we don't burn VEAO at the stake based on nearly zero knowledge of the Typhoon itself as well as zero knowledge about what VEAO does or does not have access to. Let's not treat VEAO like this forum treated Kinney, OK? We HAVE no information to work from and VEAO HAVE provided a great product so far in the HAWK and their communication has been exemplary.. Let them do their magic and if you don't like it, so be it.. But don't judge the project before you know anything about it.. "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO Link to comment
Paradox Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I have no concern at all for VEAO's Typhoon, they want what we want. Link to comment
Flycat Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Could they get all licence of typhoon?It's a new aircraft on military,too much classified to finish.and I still also hope to see this great one fly above Krymsk. Link to comment
Python Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Thanks for the update, all very exciting! :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment
rajdary Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 The funny part is that no one will be able to judge how realistic the Typhoon module will be apart from those who have had access to the Real Typhoon which in the other hand cant speak about it, so in conclusion the only thing we know is that it will certainly not be 100% accurate same as the A10C. What we all will get to know is if we like it or not and that will be the only thing which we are going to be able to discuss im afraid. Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass, Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero, Intel i7 7700K @ 4.8, Corsair HX 1000i, Nzxt Kraken 62, 32gb DDR4 3000Mhz Corsair Dominator Platinum, Nvme SSD Samsung 960 Evo 1Tb, Asus Strix OC 1080ti, Philips 43" 4K Monitor + 2 x Dell 24" U2414H, Warthog HOTAS, Track IR 5, Obutto R3volution, Buttkicker Gamer 2, MFG Crosswind pedals, Occulus Rift CV1, Windows 10 Pro. Link to comment
Ells228 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Thanks guys for your support as always. Link to comment
J7G Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Let's not treat VEAO like this forum treated Kinney, OK? Who is Kinney? Link to comment
Ells228 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Kinney Interactive. I think they were doing the Raptor if memory serves me and started a crowdfunding campaign that didn't do as well as they thought. Link to comment
J7G Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well I suppose that's the risk you run with crowdfunding. Link to comment
outlawal2 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Kinney Interactive. I think they were doing the Raptor if memory serves me and started a crowdfunding campaign that didn't do as well as they thought. It was the F-35 actually... And they were burned at the stake by folks on this forum and it was really rather disgusting how it all turned out... Hoping that folks think a little and treat VEAO with respect rather than treat them as poorly as Kinney Interactive.. :( "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO Link to comment
kazereal Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 It was the F-35 actually... And they were burned at the stake by folks on this forum and it was really rather disgusting how it all turned out... Hoping that folks think a little and treat VEAO with respect rather than treat them as poorly as Kinney Interactive.. :( To tell you the truth, that Kickstarter was ridiculous in every way in my opinion.. You can't make anything to DCS standards in the amount of funding they were seeking for: So it was better that it was stopped early I think. "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time." Link to comment
ED Team NineLine Posted January 16, 2015 ED Team Share Posted January 16, 2015 To tell you the truth, that Kickstarter was ridiculous in every way in my opinion.. You can't make anything to DCS standards in the amount of funding they were seeking for: So it was better that it was stopped early I think. Ok, lets stop right there, talk Typhoon here, nothing else needs to be dug up. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment
kazereal Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ok, lets stop right there, talk Typhoon here, nothing else needs to be dug up. You are right, this is not the place for this. Feel free to delete my post and this one. "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time." Link to comment
Richard Rodgers Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Myself and many members of my group can't wait for the release of the Tiffy. We are having a great time with the Hawk. I have no doubt that Chris and the lads will work their magic, just as they have with the Hawk. Could we all please not loose sight of the fact that we are all, with poss the exception of the pit builders out there, using DCS as a basic flight sim. Yes it is a bloody good one, but it is still a sim. Not real life, and the only way you will EVER get to see these modern birds for real, in the environments they are designed for is to accept the Queen's shilling and join up. Then if you are good enough, you may even one day make it to fly a jet. Everyone of the third party developers out there, no matter who they are, do the best they can with the information and resources they have available. Resources is the one thing that the devs can do something about, however when it comes to aircraft design info, their hands are tied by what info the real world manufacturer will release to them. This manufacturer's hands are subsequently tied by what the Government/MOD will allow them to disclose, and we as end users will never be privy to what Chris and Co have to deal with on these matters, and justifiably so. Please respect what these folks are doing for our enjoyment, and if something has to be altered in the cockpit layout so as to make a workable solution that stays within the rules of official secrets etc, just embrace it and remind yourself that if these slight changes were not made, you would not be flying the aircraft on here anyway as it would NEVER be sanctioned by the powers that be if it were 100% correct to the real world Typhoon. We all need to also accept that on a motionless sim like this that some real world functions from a current military jet simply do not transpose well into a sim, and their functionality has to be altered to achieve the required end result. Without the likes of any aircraft developer for DCS/FSX/FS9 all these sims would be poor, and it is only thanks to ED and Microsoft for allowing integration of third part development projects to go ahead that we are where we are. Just my two penny worth anyway. 2 Link to comment
uboats Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 It's 2015 now Can we move to Eye Candy 2015? ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn | Link to comment
outlawal2 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Myself and many members of my group can't wait for the release of the Tiffy. We are having a great time with the Hawk. I have no doubt that Chris and the lads will work their magic, just as they have with the Hawk. Could we all please not loose sight of the fact that we are all, with poss the exception of the pit builders out there, using DCS as a basic flight sim. Yes it is a bloody good one, but it is still a sim. Not real life, and the only way you will EVER get to see these modern birds for real, in the environments they are designed for is to accept the Queen's shilling and join up. Then if you are good enough, you may even one day make it to fly a jet. Everyone of the third party developers out there, no matter who they are, do the best they can with the information and resources they have available. Resources is the one thing that the devs can do something about, however when it comes to aircraft design info, their hands are tied by what info the real world manufacturer will release to them. This manufacturer's hands are subsequently tied by what the Government/MOD will allow them to disclose, and we as end users will never be privy to what Chris and Co have to deal with on these matters, and justifiably so. Please respect what these folks are doing for our enjoyment, and if something has to be altered in the cockpit layout so as to make a workable solution that stays within the rules of official secrets etc, just embrace it and remind yourself that if these slight changes were not made, you would not be flying the aircraft on here anyway as it would NEVER be sanctioned by the powers that be if it were 100% correct to the real world Typhoon. We all need to also accept that on a motionless sim like this that some real world functions from a current military jet simply do not transpose well into a sim, and their functionality has to be altered to achieve the required end result. Without the likes of any aircraft developer for DCS/FSX/FS9 all these sims would be poor, and it is only thanks to ED and Microsoft for allowing integration of third part development projects to go ahead that we are where we are. Just my two penny worth anyway. Nicely said.. :thumbup: "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO Link to comment
Axion Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Thanks Chris for the update, much appreciated! Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64 Link to comment
Ells228 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Haha uboats, when we have some new eye candy for 2015, we will ;) Many thanks for your kind words Richard. Chris and the Typhoon team Link to comment
Richard Rodgers Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 You are most welcome bud. Everyone of our members who use the Hawk are so utterly impressed, not only with the flight characteristics and build of the bird, but also with the continual support and info you guys give through the ED forums. If the Typhoon follows this same pattern it will be an absolute blinder. Can't wait to get my grubby hands on one. Sometimes Chris things need saying to those who continually moan. Link to comment
Ells228 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Part and parcel of the job mate, you can't please everyone :) Thanks again for your kind comments and glad you're all enjoying Hawk :) Link to comment
Andreas1811 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Thanks Chris for the update and the best wishes for your modeller...:Flush: Link to comment
Spectre11 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Thanks for the update guys and keep up the good and hard work. Looking forward for this one. Will be interesting see what will be actually in there and what not. I only hope that all systems will be modelled to a reasonable degree. There is definitely stuff that won't work anyway inside the DCS environment at least not with the present level of functionality. But that shouldn't distract from a reasonable simulation of the aircraft itself. Just recently thought about asking for some general info on certain aspects, but I believe it's possibly to early to tell and you chaps surely have better things to do. Best regards Link to comment
Eddie Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Luckily Eddie is here to point it all out to us :P Or more likely, not point it out at all in many cases for the same reasons VEAO didn't model it, and likely weren't even told about it where some systems are concerned. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment
Spectre11 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Individual systems modelling itself is probably not an issue. Certain system related functions and capabilities are. Some specific systems may not make sense for a flight simulator like this. Link to comment
Ells228 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Eddie, we're up on 19th to 21st Feb if you wanna join us for a beer. Staying near Bicker. Link to comment
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