Crunchy Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Might sound a silly question, but what does ground power allow you to bypass in the A10C or another aircraft for that matter? I'm new to this so want to learn all I can. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 In the A-10C; nothing, ground power is not needed F-86 you need it to start AFAIK Mig-21 and KA-50 ground power is not needed but recommended I use it on the KA-50 to have all my system up and running by the time the engine are on. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret1962 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Ground power on -> APU not needed. In real life it's mostly used to preserve the APU (talking in general, not about USAF). Edited November 21, 2015 by secret1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 In real life it's mostly used to preserve the APU. Uhm no, the only time we don't use the APU is for ops checks and even that is only for certain situations. We don't do anything to "preserve" the APU. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser18 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 In the A-10C; nothing, ground power is not needed F-86 you need it to start AFAIK Mig-21 and KA-50 ground power is not needed but recommended I use it on the KA-50 to have all my system up and running by the time the engine are on. Dang. I never actually considered that using ground power would let me set up all the systems in my KA50 while the engines are spooling up. This will save me some time. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Might sound a silly question, but what does ground power allow you to bypass in the A10C or another aircraft for that matter? I'm new to this so want to learn all I can. Thanks! The biggest advantage to ground power is...it's silent! When teaching someone how to preflight you don't have to fight the noise of the Abu to be heard. The second biggest advantage is its almost instantly available. Cuts down the time from spawn until the INS is aligned. Just don't forget to have the crew chief remove it prior to Taxi...they get a little testy if ya drag them down the taxiway by their headset. Sierra [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sryan Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 wouldn't you need bleed air to get spool the engines up though? or purely electronics training? :) Check my F-15C guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I use it on the KA-50 to have all my system up and running by the time the engine are on.Well TBH, I haven't used the GP at all lately. Get the engines running and warmed up, run the tests, switch on the generators and proceed from there with the systems - and you're all done in 10 minutes or less. OK, booting up & testing the systems off the GP may still shave off a minute or two, but I prefer my method regardless because it's simple and straightforward... The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 wouldn't you need bleed air to get spool the engines up though? or purely electronics training? :) Well, yeah...I should have said you can do everything just short of starting engines.:music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAF [136] Striker Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Might sound a silly question, but what does ground power allow you to bypass in the A10C or another aircraft for that matter? I'm new to this so want to learn all I can. Thanks! I use GP all the time for start up. It allows you to power up the systems very quickly instead of waiting for APU or engine generator power, but this is just my preference and I know a lot of people don't like to use it. On the other hand, GP is very helpful when you come in to do a repair. You can shut the engines down and not have to worry about having to align or bring systems back up after the repair is completed. You just start your APU and then engines and you're back up and running again in very little time. 1 Nvidia GTX-1080 Intel i7-4820K 3.7 Ghz ASUS ROG Rampage IV Extreme MB 32 GB Memory Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogs Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The ground power lets you start engines without running the APU. Electrical systems can work from the ground power without using fuel from engines or APU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The ground power lets you start engines without running the APU. Electrical systems can work from the ground power without using fuel from engines or APU. If it does it's a bug because engine start requires bleed air. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electro_monkey Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The ground power lets you start engines without running the APU. Electrical systems can work from the ground power without using fuel from engines or APU. It lets to start engines without APU generator, but not without APU (at least in 1.5 open beta). i5-9600K / RTX 2060 / 32 GB DDR4-3200 CL16 / Win10 x64 / Cobra M5 (BRD)+ Gametrix ECS / Opentrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewnix Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 It's also for maintenance. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki_ Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 One other consideration - in real life you may have an inop apu. you could start the airplane up using ground power and a ground air cart. The ground air cart is not modeled in DCS of course. In dcs i use ground power on the a-10 to get the alignment done a bit faster than waiting for the apu to spool. Also allows me to set everything else up for 2-3 minutes without listening to the apu whine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceraver Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I never use Ground power in the Shark. I can start her up in less time and be flying, than it takes for the HUD to show. Anything with a Rotary Wing is fun and challenging. Use SRS radio. Saitek X55 Modding System Specs Mixed Metals: i7 4790K@4.6, 32GB Kingston HyperX ram@2400Mhz, Gigabyte GA-Z97MX Gaming 5, ASUS Vega 64, 3xSamsung SSD drives, FSP Aurum 1000W PSU, Custom watercooling with EK blocks, Vive, Virpil MT 50, X55 throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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