What do you think about P-51D and Flying Legends?

A US fixed wing fighter..

Dimebag may I just say that that is a refreshingly frank way of expressing how you feel.

 

There has been so much Wailing and gnashing about the Mustang, that I find your views very welcome, in that way you have expressed them.

 

Just one thing to point out, the focus hasn't left DCS:- Next, that is being developed in parallel with the Mustang.

 

Nate

Thanks Nate, I do try to think before I post, mostly...:P

Just looking forward to F18.

I will inevitably get this, but I think I'll wait till after the new jet comes out and the community has had a chance to explore this a little and maybe create a few add-ons for it to interact with.

Free-for-all deathmatches where everyone's flying a P-51 would be pretty interesting, though.

"It's not the machine, It's the man"

"It's not the machine, It's the man"

A statement usually made by the man in the better aircraft!:D

Not if they are in the same machine.

Could we just stick to this simple formula:

1) WWI ---> Rise of Flight

2) WWII ---> IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

3) WWIII ---> Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3

So, DCS: F/A-18E Super Hornet with carrier ops would be the best choice rather than DCS: P-51D Mustang!

^^ The DCS: Mustang is seperate from DCS: Super Uber Jet fighter .

Could we just stick to this simple formula:

 

1) WWI ---> Rise of Flight

2) WWII ---> IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

3) WWIII ---> Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3

Be careful what you say or the next one might be DCS: SPAD XIII. It reminds me of how MS Combat Flight Simulator 1 had a Sopwith Camel in it. I was quite disappointed when the second one didn't!

Could we just stick to this simple formula:

 

2) WWII ---> IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

 

Let me fix it for you

2) WWII ---> IL-2 Sturmovik 1946

Be careful what you say or the next one might be DCS: SPAD XIII. It reminds me of how MS Combat Flight Simulator 1 had a Sopwith Camel in it. I was quite disappointed when the second one didn't!

Hmm, I don't remember cfs1 having the sopwith?

Be careful what you say or the next one might be DCS: SPAD XIII. It reminds me of how MS Combat Flight Simulator 1 had a Sopwith Camel in it. I was quite disappointed when the second one didn't!

Either from ED would make me very happy.:pilotfly:

Unless I am mistaken, TFC has (or had) a replica Sopwith Tripe.

the 1st ms flight sim had the Hump...:thumbup:

Could we just stick to this simple formula:

 

1) WWI ---> Rise of Flight

2) WWII ---> IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

3) WWIII ---> Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3

 

So, DCS: F/A-18E Super Hornet with carrier ops would be the best choice rather than DCS: P-51D Mustang!

So why cant ED try and convince a WWII community with their (hopefully) better aircraft? i tried Il-2 and no manual, no nice tutorials and the menu was dreadful to look at. Landscape was better i give you that too the EDś one was better for the computer.

besides this all ....I think ED needs to change something in their publishing aircraft. Why ?

Simple they are making one world which you fly the aircraft so one set of rules about aerodynamica.

Why not make every aircraft an add-on onto the main product which is call digital combat sim. That way you can keep cost at a low point and the users dont need to download everything every time they buy a aircraft. See it as FSX but then better . Maybe that way other companies like Aeorsoft can create their airplanes (which ED doenst want to make) and the community will be happier (or not)

But in short ED cant please everybody and they dont force you to buy it.

Anyone also noticing a strange error in the polling machine? When I open the poll, the percentages add to 173,3 %.

Honi soit qui mal i pense...

Yeah i only noticed after voting, it's a multiple options poll, it would have been usefull to know before voting. Though it's really rather silly ;).

I hope this is a "mid-term" DCS release

I voted for the option that ED sticks with modern aircraft. I'm sure it's been said in this thread already, but I feel like ED would have to put too much effort into this module to make it work effectively as far as balancing gameplay with a variety of and comparable aged war machines in support or enemy roles, and even if the region was accurate/realistic, what about the buildings, roads and cars? At the end of the day, fanatics will see past all that and I'm sure there would still be fun to be had. But a Ka-50 and A-10C in the same airspace as a P51 seems like it should only happen in an air show...JOINT US/RU airshow at that.

I really hope this is an intermediate aircraft that ED does not put too much effort into as far as environment, and other units. I would prefer they spend a considerably chunk of their time to redesign some aspects of their engine to take advantage of multiple cores and run better on current generation hardware. And with any software project, I'm sure there are other chunks of code that could be refactored to eliminate bugs, and enable implementation of new features faster. That way, the fixed-wing DCS release should end up as a very high quality product on top of a significantly better engine.

balancing gameplay with a variety of and comparable aged war machines in support or enemy roles

You should kiss this idea goodbye. ED works hard to put the polars of the planes as close as possible to real life performance. If it sucked IRL, well you better learn how to work your oponents weaknesses. There is no artificial balancing going on in the DCS series.

I want it all and I want it now!

Well, at least I voted for all - just to be fair. ;)

Dimebag may I just say that that is a refreshingly frank way of expressing how you feel.

 

There has been so much Wailing and gnashing about the Mustang, that I find your views very welcome, in that way you have expressed them.

 

Just one thing to point out, the focus hasn't left DCS:- Next, that is being developed in parallel with the Mustang.

 

Nate

Actually, no. The wailing and gnashing drowned out those of us in that beast of a topic that were saying the exact same thing.

It's unfortunate, but really no surprise that they were overlooked when every new day generates 10 pages of responses from folks who don't bother reading the very first post.

Actually, no. The wailing and gnashing drowned out those of us in that beast of a topic that were saying the exact same thing.

 

It's unfortunate, but really no surprise that they were overlooked when every new day generates 10 pages of responses from folks who don't bother reading the very first post.

Every arguement reverts to the beginning...of understanding the concept of it all:music_whistling:

I hope that they model the 50 cals correctly or it will end in tears :) Sink ships, kill Tiger tanks etc.

I actually live in Nevada (Las Vegas) so I'm excited to see how it is rendered by ED.

However, I am not into older aircraft at all, and neither are most of the people I know flying on FC2. I believe Eagle Dynamics created a niche, for people who enjoy modern aircraft and modern combat. Most people here are dependent on their HUD and electronic instruments. People will not buy this P-51d game in droves, I think it will be a huge flop. I love ED, but I kinda hope it flops, I don't want ED to get the idea that they should develop more WWII simulators.

There are tons of WWII flight simulators out there. Tons. ED Really only distinguishes itself in the modern combat arena.

Eagle dynamics has cut off many of it's traditional fans. A lot of DCS guys like fighting ground targets, which is very ineffective and inaccurate in the P-51D. Most people like electronic systems support, so they don't have to navigate the traditional way. Most ED fans also like air to air combat, which is a lot more challenging in the P-51D.

I think Eagle Dynamics shot itself in the foot with this one, I hope they don't pour too many resources down the drain developing it. I wish they'd focus on an Su-30 and F-15E simulator. That will attract the two main types of players, people who like to bomb ground targets, and people who like air fights. The F-15e or Su-30 would have been absolutely PERFECT aircraft for the DCS series...not the 'stang.

I was never a fan of the P51, with Spitfires and Zero's being my planes of choice... but regardless of personal preference, I would be keenly interested to discover the treatment DCS would treat a WWII prop plane to.