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  1. 1. What do you think about P-51D and Flying Legends?

    • I'm so happy thanks ED ! :))
    • I like, but it could be another WW2 plane. :)
    • I dont like P-51D, I want another WW2 plane. :|
    • I want WW2 scenery, not just a WW2 plane!
    • I want Flying Legends series to have only JETs. There is no place WW2 planes at JET's playground! :/
    • I just want ED to make modern aircrafts/helicopters.. :(
    • I want carrier ops!
    • I want two seater cockpit!
    • If Flying Legends will have only ww2 planes, so it has to be independent from moderns..
    • Flying Legends must have helicopters.


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My problem is not ED making non modern aircraft.... My problem is I do not want to see them online compatable with modern airframes. In my opinion that is just silly.

 

Is this really what you want to see in your DCS simming future?

 

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Looks pretty stupid doesn't it?

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My problem is not ED making non modern aircraft.... My problem is I do not want to see them online compatable with modern airframes.

 

Why is this concept so hard to understand for you? If you don't want to see it, don't fly missions that contain it. Case closed. Was that so complicated? :)

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My problem is not ED making non modern aircraft.... My problem is I do not want to see them online compatable with modern airframes. In my opinion that is just silly.

 

Is this really what you want to see in your DCS simming future?

 

 

 

Looks pretty stupid doesn't it?

 

You do realise that just because you CAN fly them online together, doesn't mean that you HAVE to fly them online together?

 

What about those who just want to FLY in the same server, for aerobatics or virtual display team stuff? Should they be prevented from doing so just becasue you can't see the big picture?

 

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What about those who just want to FLY in the same server, for aerobatics or virtual display team stuff? Should they be prevented from doing so just becasue you can't see the big picture?

 

as you say that I feel rememberd to the Heritage Formation on VFAT

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I think the most reasonable reason why the P-51 hasn´t recieved quite a well feedback is the fact that the P-51 has been announced while the next module is not. ED might have their reasons, but as long as they don´t talk to us, people are putting their own thoughts in the discussion.

I personally have much fun to fly the Hog, I also´ve got quite much stuff to learn for the Shark. But I really belive that the feedback would be better if both modules would have been announced.

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I see the big picture just fine. I just don't like mustaches on fine art. Thats my opinion.

 

I thought this thread was to get opinions. Thats why it's titled

"What do you think about P-51D and Flying Legends?".

 

They asked what I thought and I answered.

 

Seems to me your more eager to snuff out my opinion than to express your own.


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I'm going to take a page from Joe Willie Namath here and make a guarantee. I guarantee that most people that are whining will buy the Mustang anyways. I also guarantee that, whenever the new jet is released, there will be just as many threads full of people whining that it should have been some other plane and saying they won't buy the new one. People who end up buying it anyway just to support ED. Not trying to be rude....just my two cents.

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just my two cents.

 

I put my 2 cents on the top since I think you´re right...that really might happen.

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I'm going to take a page from Joe Willie Namath here and make a guarantee. I guarantee that most people that are whining will buy the Mustang anyways. I also guarantee that, whenever the new jet is released, there will be just as many threads full of people whining that it should have been some other plane and saying they won't buy the new one. People who end up buying it anyway just to support ED. Not trying to be rude....just my two cents.

 

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P-51 Bad choice.

 

These guys make the best consumer available sims on the face of the earth, so I respect their choice to model whatever they wish.

 

Personally however, given the focus of their sims so far. and titles like IL-2 Cliffs, Rise of Flight, Wing of Prey, I think there are enough Pre-jet era sims on the market.

 

No they're not anywhere near as realistic, so I can see DCS's point of wanting in on that market. However, since it doesn't seem like they're going to make an actual WW2 environment, they're probably not going to boast the modern gfx engines some of these titles boost.

 

They're really focusing on the die hard military sim enthusiasts that want detailed models, down to the cockpit coffee cup holder. And here the question becomes, how many of us really would prefer the simulation of a ww2 era airplane over that of a more modern one.

 

In terms of sales alone, I believe at this point in time DCS would be better off served to focus on their graphic engine, as they really nailed the realistic simulation market, and on a more modern air fighter that fits in more to their current series, since they themselves have stated this won't really be a ww2 sim, but DCS + a p51 roaming in there... for what reasons, I0m not sure.

 

But I'm not too thrilled about the prospect, will be sitting this one out, and leave the 'golden age' enthusiasts enjoy their thing.

 

Just my opinion, and I'm sure DCS can do without my purchase, but I'm thinking I'm not the only one, and just wanted to communicate a potential customer's opinion on this matter.

 

After seeing a video of ACU Sims P-51 model:

I question the choice even more.

 

I'll have to agree with Adolf on this one: http://www.YOUTUBE.com/watch?v=iAoZP6EuaDk


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What is the point to all these threads nagging and complaining about the P-51?

 

I don't get it. When it comes out, buy it or don't.

 

In the mean time, a new jet is being worked on, and a P-51 is being worked on by a "part" of the team.

The other part is building the jet that you will or will not complain about.

Perhaps the point is simply letting the developer know in advance, that many of their customers simply aren't interested in this title, and won't be purchasing it. I don't remember nearly anywhere near as many people saying they'd be disappointed in other titles, so it's important for the dev to know these things, don't you think?

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That's all fine, but what if ED is looking to expand its market? In that case such an opinion might have already been expected and not much of a factor.

 

Perhaps the point is simply letting the developer know in advance, that many of their customers simply aren't interested in this title, and won't be purchasing it. I don't remember nearly anywhere near as many people saying they'd be disappointed in other titles, so it's important for the dev to know these things, don't you think?

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That's all fine, but what if ED is looking to expand its market? In that case such an opinion might have already been expected and not much of a factor.

 

I can easily see an influx of new customers, who weren't into jets or helos or maybe just hadn't gotten around to trying a DCS product, more than offsetting the current ED customers who will not buy the mustang.

 

From that perspective ED is unlikely to lose. Old customers will still buy DCS-fast jet and some of the new customers will also probably buy other DCS products. The end result is that sales, and presumably revenue, go up.

 

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I think its a common misconception to think that ED's customers and fans, loyal or otherwise, only come here to this website to voice there opinion. We are only a small part of ED's customer base I'm sure and given that we went thru the trouble of signing up and coming to this board just means were a little more vocal but no more a customer than anyone else.

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That's all fine, but what if ED is looking to expand its market? In that case such an opinion might have already been expected and not much of a factor.

 

You Know I did have a comment but I thought better of it. So its erased.

 

I would just like to say I hope ED values customer opinion. No snarky comments from me today (I'm already at 80 percent WARN as it is.... I gotta behave. By the way does that thing EVER go down).

 

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I wrote it right - perhaps you might want to read it again so that you aren't reading things the way you want them to but the way they are written. With all the conditionals attached etc. ;)

 

GGTharos did you just say that ED's customers opinions were not a factor? I just wanted to make sure I heard you right. Maybe I misunderstood. Poor word choice perhaps?

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I'd agree w/ Crunch.

There is nothing wrong in P-51 as is, I am pretty sure it will be a great aircraft from ED. However the fact that P-51 has no "context" to fly in DSC world and that it probably takes away resources from the DCS: "Fighter Jet" is somewhat disheartening.

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Well it's erased now. As I said I thought better of it.


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Well it's erased now. As I said I thought better of it.

 

The same way GG has managed nearly 20,000 posts. Time travel.;)

 

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I'd agree w/ Crunch.

There is nothing wrong in P-51 as is, I am pretty sure it will be a great aircraft from ED. However the fact that P-51 has no "context" to fly in DSC world and that it probably takes away resources from the DCS: "Fighter Jet" is somewhat disheartening.

 

It has been said: Over and Over and Over..that the P-51D Mustang was a side project in the works and had no effect on further project or delays any project..

 

 

How many more times must this be said before it sinks in..:music_whistling:

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Quite a few times, Bearitall... quite a few times.

 

What gets me, is the constant "not in/ no place in the DCS world". What is the thinking behind that? :music_whistling: What is it... just a bunch of selfish little boys carrying on about what goes in the sandpit :cry: ?? it ain't even their sandpit

Its (Mustang) a side venture, a developer hobby/ study which showed enough promise to be released in its own right, with no detraction from any other project and I for one, can't wait to see the treatment given the vintage warbird by DCS (its sure to dump all over anything offered up in any other sim, be sure :smilewink: )...

 

What would be a blast is to have Duxford :huh: (and area map) modelled and released with the P51.

 

Just realise it for what it is (hopefully) a new high fidelity series :thumbup:

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Quite a few times, Bearitall... quite a few times.

 

What would be a blast is to have Duxford :huh: (and area map) modelled and released with the P51.

 

Just realise it for what it is (hopefully) a new high fidelity series :thumbup:

 

Yea, I was being sarcastic...lol...some people can be thick...

 

Duxford as a addon " WOW " nice idea bud..

 

I just can't wait for the " DCS P-51D Mustang "

 

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