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If you look at these 2 picture, you can see that the P-47D will have dive recovery flaps and a maximum manifold pressure of 64.5"Hg. So the P-47D-3* will have 44-1 fuel?

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=113686&d=1425053400

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=113688&d=1425053414

 

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/P-47D_42-26167_Power.jpg

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If you look at these 2 picture, you can see that the P-47D will have dive recovery flaps and a maximum manifold pressure of 64.5"Hg. So the P-47D-3* will have 44-1 fuel?

 

hopefully no

64inHG is for 100/130 fuel with water injection and gives some 2535HP

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Going off the last newsletter which came out in June they said the Spitfire was ahead of the P47 now as more info was available to ED on the Spitfire, so I am assuming that this will be released before the P47 now?

 

see here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=144353

 

But there hasn't been any info released about the Spit recently either so who knows!


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You just need to practice a little patience ;)

 

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Going off the last newsletter which came out in June they said the Spitfire was ahead of the P47 now as more info was available to ED on the Spitfire, so I am assuming that this will be released before the P47 now?

 

see here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=144353

 

But there hasn't been any info released about the Spit recently either so who knows!

 

God !! Hope that's not the case. Sounded to me the mk IX spit has a long way to go. They don't have cockpit, etc(according to Wags video). Is Veao's spit further on development?

 

 

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Everything I can find on the P-47D-30.

 

P-47D-30

 

"The D-30 saw the largest production run of any version of the Thunderbolt, with 2,600 built between the two Republic factories. The most importance chance was the addition of dive breaks under the wing, designed to slightly slow the speed of the Thunderbolt in the dive in an attempt to reduce the problems caused by the very high speeds achieved."

 

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_P-47D.html

 

p-47-differences.jpg

 

comp-p47dmn.jpg

 

The P-47D-30 was equipped with the C-23 turbo. Which I literally can't find anything about it. How can a P-47D-30 maintain 2600hp all the way up to 29,000ft? The Turbo surely has to spin faster than 22,000rpm. But the high speed at 29,000ft perfects matches the estimated 32,000ft high speed and the ACTUAL lower altitude highspeeds. This is shown in Narushima's modified chart.

 

*EDIT* Obviously, the P-47D-30's C-23 Turbo wouldn't spin any faster than the other models, all it would have to do is spin at its maximum RPM at a lower altitude to maintain 2600hp at 29,000ft. While the P-47D-25's Turbo A-17/A-23 would only have to spin at 22,000rpm at 31,000ft.

 

P-47-high-speed-30sept44.jpg

 

I'm assuming this P-47D-30 is tested with 150 Grade fuel.

 

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/Comparative_Fighter_Performance.jpg

 

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This is Narushima's chart modified. *This purple line is estimated.*


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Everything I can find on the P-47D-30.

 

P-47D-30

 

"The D-30 saw the largest production run of any version of the Thunderbolt, with 2,600 built between the two Republic factories. The most importance chance was the addition of dive breaks under the wing, designed to slightly slow the speed of the Thunderbolt in the dive in an attempt to reduce the problems caused by the very high speeds achieved."

 

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_P-47D.html

 

Small correction if I may: Should read "Dive Recovery Flaps". A different animal and a different purpose from dive brakes. They were also used on the P-38... did Lockheed first design them?? I don't know.

 

But thanks for posting all the great info!

 

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Awesome share Crumpp! My first time ever seeing these dive recovery flaps deployed!

 

I know they are called dive recovery, I just quoted the site.

 

"Late in 1943, a few hundred dive flap field modification kits were assembled to give North African, European and Pacific P-38s a chance to withstand compressibility and expand their combat tactics. Unfortunately, these crucial flaps did not always reach their destination. In March 1944, 200 dive flap kits intended for European Theater of Operations (ETO) P-38Js were destroyed in a mistaken identification incident in which an RAF fighter shot down the Douglas C-54 Skymaster (mistaking it for an Fw 200) taking the shipment to England. Back in Burbank, P-38Js coming off the assembly line in spring 1944 were towed out to the tarmac and modified in the open air. The flaps were finally incorporated into the production line in June 1944 on the last 210 P-38Js. Despite testing having proved the dive flaps effective in improving tactical maneuvers, a 14-month delay in production limited their implementation, with only the final 50% of all Lightnings built having the dive flaps installed as an assembly-line sequence"

 

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Ahhhh, I can't wait any longer for the P-47, I'm going crazy!

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Another picture of the P-47D-30

 

EL-1997-00168.jpg

 

"The P-47 external currently looks like this. Very long process to get the model to this point because so much of the work cannot be shown with screenshots. The model is fully articulated, and has all the internal parts that are all mapped and animated. There’s also a few sub-variants all in there, with and without the dorsal fin, a couple of different propellers. Only one variant is going to make it into the final game, but it’ll be decided later once the programming begins. Otherwise it’s at least a month of extra work for each of the changes in airframe or the propeller."

 

This was said by the previous team developing WW2 DCS


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