Ultra Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I've been trying to get my friend into DCS for a while. He's very interested but he can't run the game well enough to enjoy it with his dinosaur hardware, and he can't really afford to spend money to upgrade yet. I'd like to tell him that EDGE might optimize performance enough where DCS might become somewhat playable for him but I really have no idea about that. Does anyone have a more confident answer about this? (I know it's really just speculation, but I'd like to give him some hope if any can be found...) Right now he can only get around 11-13 fps with all settings on Low. :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 'Confident speculation' would only be available from people under NDA. The rest of us speculate with various, but unsupported, levels of confidence. :) It might help if we knew what hardware we are talking about. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Thanks for responding. :) I'll ask him and get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Well edge will require better hardware aka higher minimum specs since it's using dx 11 so if his gear is ancient he will be worse off I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 He has an HP Pavilion from 2011. He's not too computer savvy so he doesn't know what model it is, but it's definitely a budget one. :cry: I figure he can't expect much from it, but he might upgrade it in the future... What do you guys think? Any hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted November 24, 2014 ED Team Share Posted November 24, 2014 He has an HP Pavilion from 2011. He's not too computer savvy so he doesn't know what model it is, but it's definitely a budget one. :cry: I figure he can't expect much from it, but he might upgrade it in the future... What do you guys think? Any hope? I would say its safe he will need to buy something new, not much chance he could upgrade it... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Detailed computer specifications are available through two venues: 1) In Windows Control Panel, you can get a description of the computer that carries the broad strokes. 2) Start > Search > DxDiag Gives an extremely detailed list (click "save to text file") that includes not only the hardware, but also drivers and peripherals. While I cannot give specific comments (NDA, as people have mentioned), rcjonessnp175 has a faulty assumption in his post; that Dx11 requires stronger hardware. It does not. Several AAA-games (some of the CoD, Battlefield etc as examples) have indeed used two rendering channels as options - Dx9 and Dx10/11 (depending on timeframe), where both rendered the same result - but Dx10 and/or 11 does it faster due to the API being more efficient. As for DCS World 2.0 with EDGE, system requirements and recommendations will be established as soon as possible and communicated at that time. Whether they will be higher or lower or the same I simply cannot say. (In part because during development, "requirements" will always be high, but code optimisations can then pull them down - sometimes only marginally, but sometimes a LOT...) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I would say its safe he will need to buy something new, not much chance he could upgrade it... Tentatively agreed though, yeah. Unless the person would have happened to have had a really strong Pavilion (there at least used to be "Pavilion" laptops that were almost "Alienware-style" - I had one back in 2006-2008 ) and also be happy with running at fairly low graphcal configurations. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted November 24, 2014 ED Team Share Posted November 24, 2014 Tentatively agreed though, yeah. :P Unless the person would have happened to have had a really strong Pavilion (there at least used to be "Pavilion" laptops that were almost "Alienware-style" - I had one back in 2006-2008) and also be happy with running at fairly low graphcal configurations. Well given his current fps, I am gonna guess its more likely a typical HP, you know... just good enough to browse Facebook :) I hope for his sake I am wrong, but the current performance doesnt bode well, now I must stop talking about HP as I throw up a little in my mouth every-time I think the letters HP together :D (no offence to any HP fans here of course, just some personal baggage ;) ) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thanks guys. EtherealN if you give me a few days I'll head over to his house and get the exact specs. :thumbup: It's a desktop so you know. If he wanted he could put some better parts in it, couldn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted November 24, 2014 ED Team Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thanks guys. EtherealN if you give me a few days I'll head over to his house and get the exact specs. :thumbup: It's a desktop so you know. If he wanted he could put some better parts in it, couldn't he? Maybe, but doubtful, HP, Dell companies like that will go as far as limiting how upgrade-able these puters are... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 True. It's looking like my next thread is going to be "Budget computers for my friend that will run DCS" :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) The root problem of an upgrade, to almost any 'off the shelf' desktop, is going to be the power supply. Most likely, the machine does not contain a gaming grade graphics card. Assuming that it is possible to install one, the existing power supply will almost certainly be too weak to handle it. Now you need a new PSU as well, which also, may or may not, fit in the existing case. It is, unfortunately, quite likely that the only keeper parts will be the hard disk, optical disk and (if you are lucky) the case. By all means, do check out the machine since pleasant surprises do happen. Perhaps there will be something worth doing. Edited November 24, 2014 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbelter Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 True. It's looking like my next thread is going to be "Budget computers for my friend that will run DCS" :doh: "If you want to do something well, you need to get the right tools." (工欲善其事,必先利其器。) It's an old Chinese saying. Makes a lot of sense in your friend's case. :smartass: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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