Narushima Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Just some charts I made for the Dora showcasing it's performance characteristic. Maximum speed chart created by gathering data from several historical tests (speed adjusted for compressibility error). Top speed at SL confirmed in game with closed radiator flaps. Climb chart created with data gathered from a single historical test. Roll rate chart created with data gathered from historical wind tunnel test. peak roll rate confirmed in game. Turn time chart created with data gathered in the game. I did several turns, picked the best 3 and averaged the results. Test done at full fuel, so obviously the Dora will turn better with less fuel. If you want any more charts done, just provide me with the data and I'll do them (goes for the P-51 as well). FW 190 Dora performance charts: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marluk Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Thanks for sharing. This looks interesting and useful. [B]*NOB* Lucky[/B] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Tko vrijedi leti, tko leti vrijedi, tko ne leti ne vrijedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USARStarkey Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 what program did you use for that and where can i get it [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Weed Be gone Needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narushima Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 Thanks for sharing. This looks interesting and useful. You're welcome :) what program did you use for that and where can i get it Microsoft Excel. It comes bundled with Microsoft Office. Or you can download Apache OpenOffice, which is free, and has much of the functionality of it's commercial cousin. 1 FW 190 Dora performance charts: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narushima Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Guys I need your help. I need someone to test for me what the maximum speed of the P-51D is at SL with closed radiator flaps and WEP. I need this to confirm if the chart I'm using is correct. Also, the P-51D best turn time with and without flaps (average of 3 best). Turn should be completed without loss of speed. That is, if you start the turn at 300 km/h then you should also finish it at 300 km/h. I'd do it myself, but I do not have the P-51 module. So, is anyone up to it? FW 190 Dora performance charts: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSR_T-800 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Can you do one for the Bf-109K4 module? http://i.imgur.com/LYvIQFB.gifv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narushima Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 Can you do one for the Bf-109K4 module? I don't have the module, but I can do some charts for you if you provide the required data. FW 190 Dora performance charts: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 some Pony speed data: default map, I did not change any weather conditions 61"inHg, 3000RPM, 67% fuel both radiators fully closed : 577 km/h both radiators fully open : 532 km/h 67"inHg, 3000RPM, 67% fuel both radiators fully closed : 604 km/h both radiators fully open : 554 km/h (with only oil radiator fully open : 589 km/h and with only coolant radiator fully open : 566 km/h) during both flights I tried to keep altitude between 5 and 10 meters above sea I have to say sorry to ED, because I somewhere here accuded ED of low Pony performance... may be, something with cooling is not perfect :) F-15E | F-14A/B P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI |Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSR_T-800 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) P-51D All data tested at 67"Hg, 3000rpm, 68% fuel ALT, Open radiator, closed radiator SL, 590 - 612 2750m, Low blower 650 - 666 7500m, High blower 706 - the engine died after 30 seconds with coolant radiator closed. I've got a really crappy Joystick, so your speeds may be up to a couple of kph faster than my results. Edited August 28, 2015 by DSR_T-800 http://i.imgur.com/LYvIQFB.gifv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solty Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 some Pony speed data: default map, I did not change any weather conditions 61"inHg, 3000RPM, 67% fuel both radiators fully closed : 577 km/h both radiators fully open : 532 km/h 67"inHg, 3000RPM, 67% fuel both radiators fully closed : 604 km/h both radiators fully open : 554 km/h (with only oil radiator fully open : 589 km/h and with only coolant radiator fully open : 566 km/h) during both flights I tried to keep altitude between 5 and 10 meters above sea I have to say sorry to ED, because I somewhere here accuded ED of low Pony performance... may be, something with cooling is not perfect :) Yoyo himself said a while ago that P51 seems to be slower than during release. It might be that auto radiator option opens too much creating excessive drag [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSR_T-800 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) ATM the P-51D top speeds seem to be fine to me. What didn't seem right was the ALT for the Low blower stage, it is too low. Edited August 28, 2015 by DSR_T-800 http://i.imgur.com/LYvIQFB.gifv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Great contribution! Is there something like that for the Mustang and 109 so that I could compare them? It doesn't need to be as an actual overlay. Also, the following is a nice addition Edited November 17, 2015 by Bucic https://akaagar.github.io/briefing-room-for-dcs/ F-5E simpit project https://forum.dcs.world/topic/318106-f-5e-simpit-cockpit-dimensions-and-flight-controls/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narushima Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Great contribution! Is there something like that for the Mustang and 109 so that I could compare them? It doesn't need to be as an actual overlay. Also, the following is a nice addition I did a comparison chart of the 5 dcs ww2 fighters over a year ago. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=125701 As for the chart from yo yo, remember that it's without MW-50. FW 190 Dora performance charts: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I did a comparison chart of the 5 dcs ww2 fighters over a year ago. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=125701 As for the chart from yo yo, remember that it's without MW-50. Thanks for the link. I value your contributions, I do. But I'm going to have to agree with GGTharos on the most popular charts posted on ED forums http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2092503&postcount=30 I.e. they say something but hardly focus on the important stuff. Take the climb performance for example. Max RoC vs altitude chart is more useful to buyers or tacticians perhaps rather than to combat pilots. As a combat pilot I need to know the following about climbing performance: - what is the maximum climb rate airspeed at a specific altitude I.e. what airspeed is going to provide me the best Rate of Climb - how the above value (the magic airspeed!) changes with altitude Next in line are airspeeds for maximum sustained turn and instantaneous turn. Also with altitude variation. And you're pretty much covered. The rest is of far lower importance. I've spent over two hours over the weekend seeking for the data here on the forum but I haven't found anything useful. I found some in-game turning performance charts but thr description of the chart lines was so convoluted I didn't even bother to save it. Edited November 23, 2015 by Bucic https://akaagar.github.io/briefing-room-for-dcs/ F-5E simpit project https://forum.dcs.world/topic/318106-f-5e-simpit-cockpit-dimensions-and-flight-controls/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narushima Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 The best climb speed will usually be given in the manual of the aircraft. From memory, I think the best climb speed for the Dora would be around 300 km/h IAS at all altitudes. Same for the P-51. For the K-4 it would be around 280. Best turning speed for a sustained turn will be about the same as the best climb speed. For instantaneous turn it will obviously be higher, but I don't have the numbers for that. FW 190 Dora performance charts: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpp Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Best turning speed for a sustained turn will be about the same as the best climb speed. You are right it is in the vicinity. For a jet, best rate of climb equal equals best turn velocity. Props are a little different so best turn occurs at Prmin In Accordance With the velocity change in the thrust relationship for the specific speed but the premise you mention is correct. I like your work. PM me anytime if I can help or you need data! If I have it, I will share. :thumbup: Answers to most important questions ATC can ask that every pilot should memorize: 1. No, I do not have a pen. 2. Indicating 250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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