Mig-21 bis for LockOn

Thank you very much for the great addon!

 

A couple of questions:

Where is the folder OUTPUT for this aircraft?

How to shoot with GUV?

What does you mean OUTPUT? You cah shot the GUV like the normal gun. Switch to gun with key [C] than select gunpod with key [D]. That's all.

I have no time to try it yet. Hope i'll get to it soon.

As a little thank you, have a few cold ones from me too.

Thanks I've got it.

I'm having fun with this MiG-21 and bit of sentimental feeling with JRV i PVO skin I made this evening... too bad all the red writing is in Hungarian, any chance beczl to translate it to english in photoshop by making new layer, which I can then convert?

as a thanks and as promised, I clicked the button again :thumbup:

Great skin. About the text's: I can try translate it to english, but it will very difficult because the Hungarian texts not 100% translated from the Russian sources texts. It contain several coded names for each electronic, hydaulic, IFF and so on... blocks. If somebody has a russian text map I can translate it to english as well. Thanks for yopur click. I've got it.

Issue with the cockpit lighting. As Kuky mentioned when you turn it on in daylight it renders the cockpit panels black with nice red illumination. Trouble is that in the darkest night it is very weak, practically you can't see anything. Screens attached.

I read about the 4 lights in the manual but that doesn't help the situation.

It's not an issue, those are just the nighttime cockpit textures. When cabin lights are switched on, textures switch from a day to a night variant.

See Kabina-MIG-29A.SKINS below:

skin
{
value = 0.0;
material = {"tutorial_gauges", "Standart", "Tutorial_gauges.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-1.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_2", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-2.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_3", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-3.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_4", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-4.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_5", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-5.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_6", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-6.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_7", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-7.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_8", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-8.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_HUD", "Standart", "ils-glass-darktone.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Red_Light_SPO", "Standart", "BANO-SPO-10.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_KM1", "Standart", "K1M.bmp"};
}

skin
{
value = 1.0;
material = {"Tutorial_gauges", "Lighting Standart", "Tutorial_gauges_lm.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial_gauges.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-1_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_2", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-2_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_3", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-3_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_4", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-4_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_5", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-5_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_6", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-6_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_7", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-7_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_8", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-8_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_HUD", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-ILS_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Red_Light_SPO", "Standart", "BANO-SPO-10.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_KM1", "Standart", "K1M_night.bmp"};
}

The dark cockpit in daylight is a minor problem, the thing is that you see sh*t in the night.

Yes as Blaze said it's a normal night texture using method. The black texture caused by the ED night cockpit method. They don't use a separated night cockpit textures. The stock cockpits has an illuminated instruments only. The cockpit other textures remain untouched. Why do you want to use a night light in daytime operation?

If you change the ...night.bmp to a normal one in the Kabina-MIG-29A.SKINS. You haven't got a black texture but the other lightened textures goes a bit strange..

If real all light can be adjustable. In FC2 it won't. So I set all instrument and other lights volume to a standard combat settings as well. I had a lot of discussion about the night cockpit with retired and still active Mig-21Bis pilots. I have a video and several pics about the correct color and light intense. Belive me the pilot's in night see very similar in real Mig-21Bis.

I'm having fun with this MiG-21

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice skin Kuky :thumbup:

Finished ? Do you have dowload link ? :helpsmilie:

Yes as Blaze said it's a normal night texture using method. The black texture caused by the ED night cockpit method. They don't use a separated night cockpit textures. The stock cockpits has an illuminated instruments only. The cockpit other textures remain untouched. Why do you want to use a night light in daytime operation?

 

If you change the ...night.bmp to a normal one in the Kabina-MIG-29A.SKINS. You haven't got a black texture but the other lightened textures goes a bit strange..

 

If real all light can be adjustable. In FC2 it won't. So I set all instrument and other lights volume to a standard combat settings as well. I had a lot of discussion about the night cockpit with retired and still active Mig-21Bis pilots. I have a video and several pics about the correct color and light intense. Belive me the pilot's in night see very similar in real Mig-21Bis.

Ok, I understand about the dark textures and it's all fine. You wouldn't need cockpit lights in daylight of course. The question is about the lights when it's really dark, like 2 AM. I'll post the screenshots again.

This is instruments illumination in daylight 9 AM

and this is instruments illumination in night 2 AM

Why they look so different?

If you change the Kabina-Mig-29.skin for the following you can see what method in use by ED:

skin

{

value = 1.0;

material = {"Tutorial_gauges", "Lighting Standart", "Tutorial_gauges_lm.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial_gauges.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-1.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_2", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-2.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_3", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-3_night.tga"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_4", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-4.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_5", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-5_night.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_6", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-6.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_7", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-7.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_8", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-8_night.tga"};

material = {"Mig21_HUD", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-ILS_night.tga"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial.bmp"};

material = {"Mig21_Red_Light_SPO", "Standart", "BANO-SPO-10.tga"};

material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_KM1", "Standart", "K1M.bmp"};

The ED use an automatic darkener process for all cockpit textures at night . If I won't use a darkened textures the whole cockpit will be very light at night. Also can test the lightened ones just change all texture types from "Standart" to "Lighting Standart" at subsection "value = 1.0;"..

Hey beczl... I see you have UB-16 3D model in there also but it's not available in payload list anywhere... did you actually add the UB-16 rocket pod also and is working?

And here is a Mig-21 LanceR A skin, already given to Beczl for henceforth v2.1

And a LanceR C witha bit of rust on it

Is there are any campaigns or missions for this masterpiece? :helpsmilie:

I tried to remade standard ones for MiG-21 but it is quit uninteresting :(

First it gets like this, pretty nice i wolud say...

... and after a few seconds the intensity fades away, and it gets like this...

Is there are any campaigns or missions for this masterpiece? :helpsmilie:

 

I tried to remade standard ones for MiG-21 but it is quit uninteresting :(

What's the flanker campaign that comes with it? "Spring Tempest"?. Normally theres a 4 ship MiG-29A in most of those missions that fly out of Sukhumi down the coast. Why don't you set up another 2-4ship of MiG-21bis to tag along with them. Set the Su-27 flight as AI. :) Don't blame me if you get owned though... :D

Great! I got the night cockpit working. Here's what I changed in the KABINA-MiG29A.skins file - "Lighting Standart" option to all textures except for HUD and guncamera:

skin
{
value = 1.0;
material = {"Tutorial_gauges", "Lighting Standart", "Tutorial_gauges_lm.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial_gauges.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-1_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_2", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-2_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_3", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-3_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_4", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-4_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_5", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-5_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_6", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-6_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_7", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-7_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_8", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-8_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_HUD", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-ILS_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Red_Light_SPO", "Lighting Standart", "BANO-SPO-10.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_KM1", "Lighting Standart", "K1M_night.bmp"};

And here's the result

Just the radar screen is too bright but it's pretty useless anyway. Now I can see in night :D

Great! I got the night cockpit working. Here's what I changed in the KABINA-MiG29A.skins file - "Lighting Standart" option to all textures except for HUD and guncamera:

 

skin
{
value = 1.0;
material = {"Tutorial_gauges", "Lighting Standart", "Tutorial_gauges_lm.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial_gauges.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-1_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_2", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-2_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_3", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-3_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_4", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-4_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_5", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-5_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_6", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-6_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_7", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-7_night.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_8", "Lighting Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-8_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_HUD", "Standart", "Mig-21-cockpit-ILS_night.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_1_guncam", "Standart", "Tutorial.bmp"};
material = {"Mig21_Red_Light_SPO", "Lighting Standart", "BANO-SPO-10.tga"};
material = {"Mig21_Cockpit_KM1", "Lighting Standart", "K1M_night.bmp"};

 

And here's the result

 

 

Just the radar screen is too bright but it's pretty useless anyway. Now I can see in night :D

Well.. it means that one of those "Lighting" from 1 to 8 shouldn't be there, that's why probably the radar came out the way it did. I'm just saying,.. :P

Looks awsome and exiting but, i can't find the tracks to play and how can i fly it? Please don't tell me i have use the mission editor, i could never make this @#$&^%$#@ thing to work.

Well.. it means that one of those "Lighting" from 1 to 8 shouldn't be there, that's why probably the radar came out the way it did. I'm just saying,.. :P

Good hint, it's number 3 ;) Now we have it finally :D

What does you mean OUTPUT?

Folder with control settings . If I understood correct - Lock On.Flaming Cliffs 2\Config\Input\Aircrafts\F-16A

You cah shot the GUV like the normal gun. Switch to gun with key [C] than select gunpod with key [D]. That's all.

Thanks for the clarification.

Here are just a GUV(ГУВ - Гондола Универсальная Вертолетная/helicopter's universal container) exclusively for helicopters (Mi-8, Mi-24, Ka-29, Ka-50). They can not be applied to aircraft. Especially on supersonic plane.

MiG-21bis used container UPK-23-250 with double-barrel canon GSh-23L.

Previous version had the UAR insignia...ooops..

Egyptian Airforce 1973 ... Working on further weathering and some minor details

What's the flanker campaign that comes with it? "Spring Tempest"?. Normally theres a 4 ship MiG-29A in most of those missions that fly out of Sukhumi down the coast. Why don't you set up another 2-4ship of MiG-21bis to tag along with them. Set the Su-27 flight as AI. :) Don't blame me if you get owned though... :D

Where can I download this one? :helpsmilie:

EDIT:

Just founded it! Thank you!

Folder with control settings . If I understood correct - Lock On.Flaming Cliffs 2\Config\Input\Aircrafts\F-16A

 

 

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

Here are just a GUV(ГУВ - Гондола Универсальная Вертолетная/helicopter's universal container) exclusively for helicopters (Mi-8, Mi-24, Ka-29, Ka-50). They can not be applied to aircraft. Especially on supersonic plane.

 

MiG-21bis used container UPK-23-250 with double-barrel canon GSh-23L.

Yes the Mig-21Bis input settings found in ...\Config\Input\Aircrafts\F-16A

Several AF in eastern block (Hungarian AF also) and middle east AF use this block types as universal block due it has a common electric controller mechanism and control connectors and fit helo's an airplanes as well. The GUV is much larger and heavier than UPK-23-250 because it has a large ammo capacity so the supersonic flight is impossible with this pod in normal cases. The Mig-21 can carry a lot of non-conventional weapons such as AIM-9, KH-66, KMGU-1, Napalm tanks, Recce pods and so on... Unfortunately it's not documented well and only a few photos available from this weapons usage.

KH-66, Napalm tanks, Recce pods and so on...

Some of this weapon was used on the MiG-21 by Flight Operations Manual :).

KH-66 originally developed for the MiG-21PFM

Recce pod on MiG-21R

Napalm tanks ZB-500Sh on MiG-21bis in Afganistan

a few photos available from this weapons usage.

If you have a photo of MiG-21 with the GUV I'll be glad to look.